03:42 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> if i want to replace netplan with networkmanager, would i just install nm, enable the service, uninstall netplan and restart?

03:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> I assume more or less yes. That would be it

03:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> on arch all you really have to do is install and enable it, i've never replaced an existing network backend on something deb / ubuntu based though

03:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> You could take a look at the network extension that deal with this stuff during image assembly. So you get an idea what happens

03:46 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> i might just jank together a VM and try it

09:09 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> no? the `netplan` *is* `NetworkManager`

09:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> netplan is canonical crap, nm is really nice and is what I use on all of my stuff

09:21 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> there's 0 configs or packages for netplan on my other systems

09:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> netplan is unironically terrible, the configs make 0 sense and i remember that installing a gpu in something once prevented me from connecting to the network, apparently netplan needs the pci id or something for the nic and that changed

09:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> nm doesn't have this problem

09:23 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> the netplan files literally do not exist on my laptop that uses nm

09:23 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1299302382752235601/image.png?ex=671cb523&is=671b63a3&hm=d42444b745b13092051c26790c0dca6916f57f25a6323874f353ebc84b9b8062&

09:25 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> also nmtui makes connecting to wifi / eth way easier and you can easily connect to wireguard with it

09:26 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> >macos

09:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> >i have no idea what i'm doing and definitely shouldn't be trusted as a source of information

09:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <lands39> i concur

09:29 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> okay then i won't bother

09:41 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> hmm no i was correct, what surprise

09:48 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1299308499930578984/image.png?ex=671cbad6&is=671b6956&hm=9cd1dc32cc80a05fb52164c08ffa85cfb8f6e339d25e70dac697992717029c14&

10:05 <Hammdist> is it possible/recommended to power a raspberry pi 5 through the pin headers? there are 5v pins there and I'm thinking of sacrificing a usb cable to solder the power and ground onto there. is this a bad idea for any reason?

10:14 <Hammdist> apparently there is wisdom on the internet for my question and it's a medium-bad idea: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=372224

10:14 <Hammdist> issue being that it bypasses some undervoltage protection

11:03 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> Hammdist: powering through headers isn't uncommon, but it usually bypasses fuses and some protection, if you're powering it from another board it's *usually* fine

11:47 <Herc> dont use a random usb cable and/or usb source. most cables just are crap (too thin wires)

11:48 <Herc> also, if not powered via usbC, the pi5 reqires a hint in config.txt IIRC

11:51 <Herc> Hammdist, you should use the original PSU IMHO, it is cheap and reliable

17:22 <Hammdist> is rpi5 using u-boot or something else? I would like to know if it is possible to drop-in replace the FAT32 on the sdcard with an ext2 partition

17:22 <Hammdist> ... with the same files as contents of course

17:45 <Hammdist> some basic investigation reveals that this can't work, it must be FAT32 as it is read by the "eeprom" bootloader

17:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> rpi uses their own custom bootloader, it may be uboot based

17:57 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html#raspberry-pi-boot-eeprom

17:58 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> <https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html#raspberry-pi-boot-eeprom>

18:01 <Hammdist> yeah looks like I must use guestfs-tools to mod the vfat

18:06 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> Hammdist: depends what you're trying to do, you may be able to use their eeprom updater

18:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/1156e24c56d013829e15cfc3820fc3c4b639e259>): *Adding instructions for adding a software title to the armbian-config*

18:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/f388d19713246ff2181d13bc41ba4c5649406a17>): *`Automatic` documentation update*

18:59 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ⤴️ **Pull request** to [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - **Please review!** 👉 [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/pull/512>): *Add missing cathegory*

18:59 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/052f813a39be71621a9fa214d94877665e0b6c74>): *Add missing cathegory*

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19:24 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> finally set up a build environment, it's been chugging for a while

19:24 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1299453440556138656/image.png?ex=671d41d2&is=671bf052&hm=42c5ae6248d978411b97e27c6b5ff549c856d8ba88c08209a775f0ad621d0e5b&

19:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/466a0cd346333ca683971bfe6c4a43a523510779>): *Move maintainers update function from https://github.com/armbian/scripts*

20:38 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/5981196f1f5f1ee38a032cd119c49904ef16b806>): *`Automatic` board configs status synchronise*

21:40 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/bede7c121e5bb22c17ac040994bd9c6d707cd366>): *Limit default labelling to opened, reopened and synchronize PR*

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