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<mlp> looks shiny, 2x2.5Gbe would make a nice router
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<Werner> Sounds like you are tinkering with some sort of tvbox. Close to nobody in chat know about these devices. Try in forums.
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<amazingfate> It's confirmed by a user that these two commits cause emmc booting into initramfs on rk3588:
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> T6, that's the way. 12v jack ❤️
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<Werner> yeah that is nice. If i had to choose I'd probably still go for the OPi. Got no luck on FE stuff in the past.
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<Tenkawa> @MicroLinux (Salva) all of my RK3588/s are running on 5v... running just fine too
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Are you utilizing nvme drives?
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<Tenkawa> yep
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<Tenkawa> in everyone
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Then you probably have very good quality 5v psu
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<Tenkawa> yes
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> 5v it's a no go for such device
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<Tenkawa> it is actually
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> 12v it's the sweet spot
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<Tenkawa> Its a bench power supply
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<Tenkawa> controlled 5v across 3 plugs
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> I used opi4 5v psu (the one they sent me) on his opi4.. i had tons of power issues
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<Tenkawa> (actually 5.1v)
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Yes, every psu does deliver a bit more voltage
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> To overcome drops
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<Tenkawa> Yeah that helps a lot
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> But when you need a 5.1v or 5.2v 4 A psu.. then.. 12v is the right choice
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Bc a good quality 5v psu cost a lot of money
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Relatively speaking
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<Tenkawa> I have one connection on here that can do PD up to 20V
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Ohh sure, PD is another solution
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> But also clunky depending the PMIC
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<Tenkawa> (or static USB-C if I adjust its dts)
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<EfeCTN> it's interested t6 doesn't have PD
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<EfeCTN> r6s and r6c had it
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> I prefer T6 way
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Bc T6 is RK3588
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<Tenkawa> I prefer non-pd
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> That's why
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> The others have less I/O
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<EfeCTN> t6 is better except usb ports number
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Yes
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> I don't understand why just one usb
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> How much native usb 3 0 rk3588 delivers?
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> One? Two?
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<Tenkawa> I am curious if this thing is going to power my Star64 with a usb-c-barrel adapter for that pd port or if I'll need to buy an adapter... it needs a lot of juice
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<EfeCTN> two type c + 1 combophy typec + 2 usb2 otg
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<EfeCTN> they use both of type c's but they use combophy as pcie2
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Well, they should have added 2 usb 2.0 then
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> I wonder how much market there is for such amount of RK3588/S sbcs
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<Tenkawa> I like my 3588s Khadas much more than the 3588 Rock5
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<EfeCTN> btw do you know the usb chip on opi5+
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Khadas RK3588S cost way more than a real x86_64 pc
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<EfeCTN> do they multiplex typec to get 2 ports?
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> So, no idea why you would prefer such
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<Tenkawa> I use them for servers though.. not pcs
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<Tenkawa> and I do ARM/RISC.. not X86
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Your servers need that amount of power?
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Yeah, but arm makes sense when we talk about efficiency and price
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<Tenkawa> I don't/didn't work on x86
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<Tenkawa> never did
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> And currently, RK3588 doesn't deliver neither good price neither good linux support
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Neither much better efficiency than an intel N100
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<Tenkawa> My entire career was always on alternative arch's if I wasn't in a dba role
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Sure, but one choose a different arch if there is a benefit on doing so.
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<Tenkawa> (yes I am a 20+ yr dba too)
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<Tenkawa> lol
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<EfeCTN> looks like they do since rk3588 has 3combophy pcie and they use all of them
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<EfeCTN> looks like they do since rk3588 has 3combophy pcie2 and they use all of them
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> I think we are in the middle of an ARM Linux crisis right now.
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<Tenkawa> I think the RISC-V intro might "help" it...
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Too expensive SoCs without mainline support compared to affordable, supported abd featured entry level x86_64 chips
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> That may be indeed
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<EfeCTN> but they are also too expensive at the moment
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Since we are the main target, linux is, I mean
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<Tenkawa> They are dropping rapidly
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<Tenkawa> Now that more boards are being released
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<EfeCTN> and no soc manufacturer wants to maintain mainline kernel properly so it sucks
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<Tenkawa> Starfive's is about to be in mainline...
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<Tenkawa> its already in rc
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> On ARM we aren't the main target, even for chips that aren't competitive on android/chromeos like RK3588. So, it brings concerns about the future
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<EfeCTN> is hardware decoding working on mainline
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Risc v chips are underpowered, but it targets mainline linux from day 1 at least.
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<Tenkawa> I can't say.. I don't use it... I know nvme/pci/usb/etc does
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> I am mostly sure they do
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<EfeCTN> oh that's quite cool
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Would be cool to know if it does on the cheap allwinner soc, D1? Dont remember the bame
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<Tenkawa> this was a dev kernel but...
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<Tenkawa> Linux vf2 6.2.14-vf2+ #20 SMP Fri May 5 18:33:49 EDT 2023 riscv64 GNU/Linux
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<Tenkawa> thats part of whats going in
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<Tenkawa> its on my visionfive 2
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<Tenkawa> my Star64 "suppose" to be here Tues/Wed depending on shipping...