00:42 <Armbian-Discord> <Z​anoryt> grosssssss !!! 😉

00:44 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Porters, stouts.

01:50 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Ah, I do enjoy a quality stout, or porter. Generally I just like beer

01:50 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😆

06:50 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> I'm not a fan of Tkaiser, but discussing a person's personal qualities in a technical forum is the level of small children from the sandbox. 🤮

11:54 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Just keep in mind there was the comment made by him of "hidden Discord crap channels" first

11:55 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> just to be fair

11:55 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> in that writeup

12:20 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @IgorPec question for you about the manual patches made for the rk3588 so far.. Who has been making those?

12:22 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I think with just a few (3-5) tweaks we might be able to get the kernel up to possibly 5.10.75 (now if it runs yet I don't know.. but there are very few adjustments that need to be made)

12:39 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i did, but have no time / will to proceed

12:42 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Ok. was just curious if you had done that or someone at Radxa

12:43 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I was going to attempt some changes on my trip and see how it goes

13:09 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ok

13:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I've found some of the problem has been overlaps in the code

13:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Some of the changes were already in their kernel

13:18 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, this is common

13:20 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I've got one main one left to fix I think for the "core" of this to be ready to try

13:50 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> lib/list_sort.c is one ugly file heh

14:10 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> It's a waste of work to make changes to the BSP kernel, trying to raise its version, the next iteration from RK or the maintainers of the kernel (Radxa) will break all your work. It is better to spend time working with the main core, it will be much more useful.

14:12 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> That's the "only" version out for it right now atm unless you know of some hidden kernel somewhere besides theirs

14:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> the 5.10 Rock5 repo is the only one I'm aware of

14:18 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I have no confidence that the "next" revision will be much more different than the current one... using Android ancient codebase was "not" a confidence builder

15:29 <Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I think that's a good point.. there's no value in Armbian trying to provide additional patches to vendor's upstream kernel... let them own that. Even the new kernel config should probably still be a PR to raxda as a courtesy. Other users are having issues with no docker obviously. Armbian "should" worry about wrangling the mainline patches that are floating.

16:41 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I wasted so much time on the Tinker Board vender kernel, and at one point a Rockchip merge murdered it for months

18:30 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> The problem there is progress.. is Radxa's priority making this board enduser/mainline ready? If not then some entity has to fill the gap or this board will be a non-sell before its even on market fully