04:31 <whitequark> yeah

14:13 <fl4shk[m]> Catherine: can you let me know when you've pushed the implementation of the interfaces RFC?

14:13 <fl4shk[m]> I'll start integrating it into my library right away once you do that

14:13 <fl4shk[m]> btw, it looks great :)

14:27 <galibert[m]> She was thinking last Friday, so I'd plan for middle of next week, resonably

14:27 <fl4shk[m]> sounds good

14:28 <galibert[m]> s/resonably/reasonably/

14:29 <galibert[m]> Looks like she's decided to enjoy her week-ends lately, which is Good and Sane

14:29 <fl4shk[m]> agreed

14:29 <fl4shk[m]> though personally, coding is my enjoyment :)

14:29 <fl4shk[m]> I suppose I'm just a workaholic, maybe?

14:29 <fl4shk[m]> not so much when it comes to my day job

14:30 <fl4shk[m]> but I don't get to use Amaranth at my day job

14:30 <galibert[m]> well amaranth is her day job now

14:30 <fl4shk[m]> right

15:29 <whitequark> <FL4SHK[m]> "though personally, coding is..." <- this also happens to me still

15:29 <whitequark> but if work projects count in that category, it opens you up to a fantastic degree of exploitation

15:30 <whitequark> i'm not currently in a position where that's a concern, but the memories of the past treatment soured it as a concept anyway

15:30 <fl4shk[m]> whitequark: gotcha

15:33 <whitequark> it's actually not that difficult to fix (for me) in an emotional sense, but fixing it requires being able to confidently assert that your time, and your projects, belong to you (not in a legal sense; in the same sense that you need to feel that e.g. your laptop's data or the contents of your apartment belong to you, or you'll keep having an extremely bad time every day)

15:34 <whitequark> 'cause like, your typical open source project has a moral equivalent of five to ten strangers going through your bedroom every day and criticizing interior decor unprompted

15:34 <fl4shk[m]> I see.

15:36 <whitequark> this is a problem endemic to open source but it's not inherently unfixable. you can run a project otherwise. unfortunately there are next to no examples of this being done so you don't have role models so you grow into the movement internalizing one of the two other options of dealing with outsiders who overstep their (nonexistent) authority: aggressive alienation, or fawning submission

15:37 <whitequark> i guess avoidance is also an option

15:38 <whitequark> i've done all three! pleased to report that they have minimal to no impact on time-to-burnout, but leave you with an extreme degree of anxiety and/or guilt in the end

15:40 <whitequark> anyway, i can make the assertion consciously and then i feel fine working on a project downstream of that assertion, but overriding more than a decade of experience takes enough effort that it's just not enjoyable in the end anyway

16:12 <fl4shk[m]> finally got my new crossbar switch working

16:12 <fl4shk[m]> not a pipelined one mind you

16:12 <whitequark> nice

16:13 <fl4shk[m]> This is the one that I'd like to use as a submodule of my interconnect that has registered handshaking signals

16:13 <fl4shk[m]> I prefer to use a formally verified interconnect instead of Xilinx's AXI ones that have subtle bugs

16:14 <fl4shk[m]> that and I can actually test my code in FLOSS simulators this way

16:14 <fl4shk[m]> ...along with guaranteeing correctness