cr1901 changed the topic of ##yamahasynths to: Channel dedicated to questions and discussion of Yamaha FM Synthesizer internals and corresponding REing. Discussion of synthesis methods similar to the Yamaha line of chips, Sound Blasters + clones, PCM chips like RF5C68, CD/floppy disk theory of operation, and the 68k CPU are also on-topic. Channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/~h~yamahasynths
<andlabs> but yeah no I'm tired of the conspiracy theories
<andlabs> mj's name will soon be scrubbed from the vgmrips pack once they figure out why changing tags breaks the files
<fseidel> andlabs: wait, I didn't hear about the plagiarism, what's this about?
<andlabs> so apparently the author of that 'hard times' song was not brad buxer but rather brad's guitarist
<andlabs> who was a member of the band, but is not credited in sonic 3
<andlabs> so either brad owns the rights to the songs or idk
<fseidel> oh wild, so the rights are even more of a mess than I already thought they were...
<cr1901> That might explain why when brad buxer was pressed on discussing hard times in early 2010s, he stopped talking to the ppl interviewing him
<cr1901> and referred them to his publicist or something
<andlabs> no I'm more willing to blame sonic fans being endlessly bothersome
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<cr1901> Sonic fans being endlessly bothersome. Aka "A day that ends in 'y'".
<andlabs> anyway my favorite of the replaced songs is the competition song
<andlabs> and I'm not sure why it was replaced
<andlabs> the replacement song doesn't sound particularly American or new jack swing-y
<andlabs> and the replaced song is actually finished
<andlabs> (and fits with the other competition songs, except Results)
<andlabs> (Results... doesn't fit at all
<andlabs> in fact hot take: the sonic 3 & knuckles soundtrack is entirely noncohesive when you think about it for more than a few seconds)
<andlabs> (it's still realy good but)
<fseidel> it's definitely all over the place, I'll give you that
<fseidel> it doesn't really play with any themes/motifs/etc.
<fseidel> it also has some of the worst PCM quality I can think of in a first-party title, lol
<andlabs> you ahve not played outrunners
<andlabs> or arguably ristar
<andlabs> go "enjoy" those
<andlabs> sega's programmers seemed to have hit their talent limit with the sonic 3 version of their standard sound driver, trying to make it mix two PCM channels made it go too far
<andlabs> ristar is slightly better at least? and its drums hide the jank
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<fseidel> oh, good point, I forgot about Ristar. Those voices... *shudders*
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<andlabs> P̷̖̹͓̟̥̰l͕͇̦͙a̙̳̻̫̤y̛̫̻̺͍̗ ̪̫͎͚̙͕͜w̶̠̰̪͕̮̹͔ḭ̶t̶͙̙̯̙h̷̠ ̥̀m͕e҉̜͍̹̣̩̲̦?̣͝
<fseidel> wow, that's eating into IRSSI's status bar...
<cr1901> Alt text: Zalgo "Play with me?"
<andlabs> (which is what ristar says on the title screen when you press start)
<cr1901> I love Vapor Trail, but the voice samples on the Genesis version aren't great either
<cr1901> (while everything else sound wise is basically superior to the arcade version)
<tunixman> that really captures the sound there.
<fseidel> IIRC the percussion samples in Vapor Trail are really clean, how strange...
<cr1901> I meant the voice samples
<fseidel> right, I meant it was weird that the voices sound like crap since the percussion is nice
<andlabs> i might be the only person who prefers the arcade version's music but even then it can potentially be grating if you'r enot up for siren guitars
<andlabs> it also does not loop properly >:O