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<kiwi_29_[m]> <rburton> "kiwi_29_: do recommend using ipk..." <- Hello rburton and kanavin ... why not use deb?
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<mckoan> good morning
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<qschulz> o/
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<kanavin> kiwi_29_[m], deb is not very well tested. ipk is the default and used by most.
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<RP> morning!
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<GuestNew> Hello all, I would like to migrate a custom function from .bbappend to .inc (and include it from the bbappend). But i'm not able to call dtc binary from the .inc. Everything works from .bbappend. I have missed something ?
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<qschulz> GuestNew: something adds dtc-native to your sysroot, I guess your .inc function is called in recipes which do not have this explicit dependency
<qschulz> might be a recipe depending ona recipe, depending on a recipe, depending ona recipe, etc...
<GuestNew> I have already DEPENDS += "dtc-native" in the recipe ( i'm trying to update u-boot recipe) and dtc is callable from the .bb :S there is no restriction to put it inside .inc ?
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<rburton> RP: morning
<JaMa> RP: wb! :)
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<qschulz> GuestNew: no restriction, so I believe your .inc is used in other places or is not included or you're breaking something
<GuestNew> Ok I have added a bbwarn to checked and all looks okay. Thanks to confirm the issue is on my side. Appreciate your help:)  thx
* RP wonders where to start
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<Saur[m]> RP: Take another week of vacation? ;)
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<RP> Saur[m]: tempting :)
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<LetoThe2nd> yo dudX
<mckoan> LetoThe2nd: hey o/
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<kanavin> RP: hello :-)
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<LetoThe2nd> i've got an image recipe that is reported as a changing basehash, but doing the -Snone, -Sprintdiff procedure in non-revealing, any ideas how to dig?
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<sa7mfo> Hi, I'm trying to override recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf/system.conf with my own configuration. I have a meta layer that contains the file. But my image still contains the original one. Is this file treated special?
<LetoThe2nd> sa7mfo: "layer that contains the file" means? how is it added?
<sa7mfo> I have another meta-layer with priority 7 that has the file recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf/system.conf
<LetoThe2nd> sa7mfo: i don't think this will be picked up without a bbappend that adds it the the FILES path
<qschulz> LetoThe2nd: correct, FILESEXTRAPATHS variable needs to be set in a bbappend in the layer
<sa7mfo> does not recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb (from poky) do that for you? I thought that all layers was merged (in priority order) into one big tree and files will be replaced by layers with higher priority?
<qschulz> sa7mfo: no
<qschulz> it's done on a recipe level, not on a layer level
<qschulz> so all bbappends for a given recipes are included in the priority order for a recipe
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<sa7mfo> qschulz: LetoThe2nd: it worked, thank you
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<LetoThe2nd> sa7mfo: have fun!
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<michaelo> Hi JPEW: making more experiments... SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED seems to be unused
<michaelo> and do nothing. Is that intended?
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<michaelo> JPEW: and SPDX_ARCHIVE_SOURCES and SPDX_INCLUDE_SOURCES only seem to do something when they are both set to "1". Is this supposed to be like that?
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<JPEW> michaelo: I think they are orthogonal, but I don't remember for sure. AFK right now
<JPEW> Ah right, INCLUDE_SOURCES means to describe them in the side SPDX, ARCHIVE_SOURCES means also create an archive for later viewing
<JPEW> So, they could be orthogonal, but in practice I'm not sure why you would want the archive without having them described in the document
<michaelo> JPEW: what do you mean by the "side" SPDX? Doesn't it get generated in tmp/deploy/spdx/?
<michaelo> I'm not sure what you mean by "the document". So many files get generated.
<JPEW> Sorry on my phone. Meant "inside the SPDX" :)
<JPEW> Or just "in the SPDX".
<michaelo> Ok, got it :)
<michaelo> JPEW: so SPDX_INCLUDE_SOURCES is meant to add something to tmp/deploy/spdx, right? In my tests, it doesn't seem so.
<michaelo> JPEW: and how do you run SPDX validation? I only seem to have individual json files, but I can't feed a directory archive to https://tools.spdx.org/app/validate/ for example.
<michaelo> Couldn't there be a giant json file conflating them all?
<michaelo> JPEW: sorry, many questions :}
<JPEW> That flag will make the SPDX json files much bigger, because they will include an entry for all the sources
<JPEW> And.... Ya. Validation is a problem currently. We've sort of gotten ahead of the tooling. What we are doing is allowed and valid, but the tooling hasn't caught up
<JPEW> Have you seen my presentations?
<JPEW> Here is a talk I gave to SPDX: https://youtu.be/8X5PWa7A6pY
<JPEW> And here is an ELC talk I gave: https://youtu.be/6zms_qGmVqg
<JPEW> There is some overlap, but I recommend watching both if you haven't already
<michaelo> Yep, I watched both :) So, what you said about the tooling is still valid then...
<michaelo> JPEW: so, does SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED have any use?
<JPEW> IIRC, it does the same where it describes the files in the SPDX json, making it bigger
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<JPEW> We can generate a lot of output, so there are knobs to control the size/completeness tradeoff
<JPEW> SPDX 3 will be better
<michaelo> JPEW: looking at meta/classes/create-spdx.bbclass, SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED is read into include_packaged, which doesn't appear anywhere else. That's why I have the impression it's not used.
<JPEW> It's the main focus of the SPDX group right now, and I'm trying to make sure it can handle some of our more advanced uses better from the start :)
<JPEW> Ah, it's possible that is the case
<michaelo> JPEW: cool that you're involved in the SPDX 3 effort :)
<RP> michaelo: I just updated the docs branches but had to force push langdale to make it match what I'd merged. Hope that is ok!
<RP> michaelo: I'll diverge them from master now so that won't happen again
<michaelo> RP: no problem at all :)
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<michaelo> JPEW: I eventually found what was added by SPDX_INCLUDE_SOURCES. Thanks for the tips!
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<mcfrisk> why would recipes use ??= assignment for PACKAGECONFIG? those can't be amended with += in a bbappend, must use :append instead. += overwriting the full PACKAGECONFIG is not intuitive.
<mthenault> Hi, Why is TOPDIR and DEPLOYDIR not defined in do_deploy_append() inside a .bbappend ? This is defined in the .bb
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<qschulz> mthenault: DEPLOYDIR for sure should be defined in a bbappend
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<qschulz> mthenault: so we need more info on what you're trying to do, what you did, what you are expecting to happen and what actually happens
<qschulz> mthenault: (make sure you inherit the deploy class in your bb/bbappend for starters)
<mthenault> qschulz: my bad.. It was due to a bad syntax. It is indeed defined :)
<qschulz> mthenault: :)
<mthenault> thanks anyway!
<michaelo> JPEW: what shall we do about SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED which looks unused? Shall I file a bug so that you can have a look later at your own convenience?
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<JPEW> michaelo: yes please
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<michaelo> JPEW: ok, thanks!
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<rburton> armpit khem if you're merging stuff to meta-oe and get those annoying "via lists.oe" authorships, https://github.com/rossburton/ross-tools/blob/master/authormunger.py might be useful
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<armpit> rburton: Khem seems to deal with master stuff
<rburton> RP: fwiw filed https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14949 for usrmerge. kicked a qemuarm64-alt build to see what explodes, and will fire selftest too for a giggle
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<RP> rburton: thanks
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<kergoth> mcfrisk: yes, that's a terrible behavior, we really need to fix that. It's not expected for config metadta value for that variable to override the recipe. the recipe should just use =, and we can use :append or a pn-override if you need to adjust it
<kergoth> (re ??= for PACKAGECONFIG)
<kergoth> mcfrisk: i'm sure patches would be welcomed :) I keep having to fight other fires myself
<axelparolta> Howdy, I'm working on a project that requires OTA and secure boot. I stumbled upon OSTree which sounds promising. However, I haven't found any documentation talking about OSTree + Secure boot. Is there anything that would prevent the secure boot from working in conjunction with OSTree?
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<mischief> is there a way to prevent kbd from being built, if for example i remove vconsole from systemd PACKAGECONFIG?
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