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<Tyaku> Hi, previously we speak about package manager, and as I am using APT (with no reason) we said that as APT is not really tested yet, it's not realy good to use it. My question is, in 2022, what is the best package manager for a yocto project ? rpm ? ipk ? What are the differences ?
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<Tyaku> Also, in my final target we DON'T need package manager. But in the local.conf file we have PACKAGE_CLASSES. So I supposed that it is only used to build image as I don't necessary embed the package-manager.
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<mckoan> Tyaku: the preferred on embedded systems is .IPK if you don't need any special feature provided by the others. The reason is thaht .IPK is the lightest
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<rfuentess> rookie question about `bb.utils.contains_any` and certain variables. I'm trying to find formal documentation about the former but my searchs end in stack overflow
<rfuentess> environment vars such as IMAGE_FEATURES, MACHINE_FEATURES and DISTRO_FEATURES can be recovered with that bcclass in any kind of recipe ?
<qschulz> rfuentess: not IMAGE_FEATURES
<qschulz> IMAGE_FEATURES makes sense only in the image recipe, and since recipe data is local to the recipe, you won't bve able to access IMAGE_FEATURES from another recipe
<qschulz> well technically you can, but it won't return something "valid"
<rfuentess> but then why DISTRO_FEATURE can be shared between multiples recipes?
<qschulz> rfuentess: because it is a variable that is set on the global level, in configuration files
<qschulz> rfuentess: also why you cannot modify DISTRO_FEATURES from a recipe
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<rfuentess> qschulz: the global nature of the DISTRO_FEATURE is because this is located in a *.conf file called by yocto when is starting to collect the info, right ?
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<qschulz> rfuentess: data you find in configuration files are available to all recipes, those files just need to be parsed in order for their data to be available
<qschulz> distro and machine configuration files are explicitly selected via the DISTRO and MACHINE variables in your local.conf (or passed via command line)
<rfuentess> Okis dokis. It has a lot of sense
<rfuentess> (and now, I'm worry about how my teamwork make use of the python tool :P )
<rburton> you _can_ change DISTRO_FEATURES in a recipe, it's just a variable. but recipe changes are scoped to the recipe, so nobody else will know :)
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<rfuentess> qschulz rburton : thank you for the pointers :)
<rfuentess> but now... I'm curious about the python method itself: `def contains_any(variable, checkvalues, truevalue, falsevalue, d)` whereas ` d -- the data store.` This implies that all the recipes have a local variable called `d` ?
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<rburton> yes
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<rfuentess> rburton: thanks!
<rburton> the bitbake manual is fairly short and very much worth a skim
<rfuentess> rburton: yeah, I'm taking my notes from it. But, I was still not touching the python section too much
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* rburton looks at cve report and screams
<RP> rburton: haha
<RP> rburton: we only updated mid last week
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<rfuentess> erh, another rookie question. But I swear this is from what I have read so far xD
<rfuentess> if we have a config file `ABC = ""`, and then in another recipe a `ABC ??= "foo"`, the weak assignation will not take place because "ABC" already exist, right ?
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<RP> rfuentess: correct
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<wyre> hi guys, I've got this recipe for shipping a shell script and its corresponding systemd service and also a path unit to actually start its corresponding systemd service
<wyre> https://bpa.st/QN6Q but not sure how may I enable just the path unit
<wyre> because the intended behavior is the path unit starts the service when a certain path exists
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<wyre> so not sure if I just may remove the L9
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<fray> cost $5k to fix it
<fray> oops
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<fray> blacklist/package ignore the 9.3 version.. :)
<fray> (I've had to do that in the past, usually results in the "real" error
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<DvorkinDmitry> for my machine I build several DTSes: KERNEL_DEVICETREE += "...". Some of them should be moved to another layer. Is there are any way to do .bbappend for the mymachine.conf?
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