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<matman> Having trouble figuring out how to have a different native compiler/gcc from target.. Is that not a thing?
<kroon> matman, not sure I get what you are after. you want to build the target binaries with some specific compiler ?
<matman> I want the target to use an older version of gcc/glibc but a newer version for native
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<kroon> matman, you want to be able to run an older gcc on the target ?
<kroon> or build the target using an older gcc ?
<matman> Sorry.. I want to compile the target with an older version of gcc..
<matman> no gcc running on target
<kroon> since yocto usually builds the cross-compiler for target (unless you are using an external toolchain), you'd need to modify whatever yocto release you are on to use that version of gcc
<kroon> but I don't have much experience with external toolchains, maybe thats the easiest option
<matman> I copied the gcc/glibc from pyro and they build and I can cross compile to target.. The problem is building an image the buildtools-tarball requires virtual/nativesdk-x86_64-sdk-linux-gcc-initial which does not exist
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<matman> Perhaps I could play a game where I prefix the gcc compiler with a different name.. then preferred provider for PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc and friends....
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<kroon> well, this is where my yocto black magic skillz end unfortunately
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<rburton> next time matman appears can someone ask why buildtools-tarball is involved at all
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<roussinm> Yesterday I asked about how to get a complete native sysroot from the sdk and someone answered me with the build-extended-tarball, seems to works. But I was wondering, in theory, everything in there could be packaged inside a meta-toolchain-mysdk.bb, right? So I wouldn't have to build two recipes to get a complete sdk working.
<RP> roussinm: I think that could work, yes
<roussinm> RP: I don't think its possible to require or inherit the buildtools-extended-tarball?
<RP> roussinm: no, that wouldn't work
<roussinm> RP: hmm, how hard would it be to modify the recipe/code to make that possible?
<RP> roussinm: probably easiest would be to move the TOOCHAIN_HOST_TASK definitions to an include file since I think ultimately it is that you're interested in?
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<roussinm> RP: Yes, that's what I was thinking too for a solution to my problem, moving them to a .inc.
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<tlwoerner> a vendor BSP layer instructs me to run 2 bitbake commands, then hand-assemble the sd card by using artifacts from both bitbake commands
<tlwoerner> i'm hoping to wic-ify the process
<tlwoerner> i can have the 2nd bitbake command run by adding it to WKS_FILE_DEPENDS
<tlwoerner> wic's "--source rootfs" doesn't seem to allow me to add arbitrary files to the image
<tlwoerner> "--source bootimg-partition" does, but creates a separate /boot partition (which isn't what i need)
<tlwoerner> so it looks like i have to create my own wic plugin
<tlwoerner> one which is very similar to "--source rootfs" but allows me to add one arbitrary file from $DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE
<tlwoerner> is it possible to extend "--source rootfs" or do i have to start with a copy+paste of "--source rootfs" then extend it?
<sotaoverride> why might PACKAGECONFIG_append = " python3" in a bbappend for libgpioid work but not somthing like DISTRO_FEATURES_append = " systemd wifi bluetooth python3" ??
<JaMa> sotaoverride: bibake -e or bitbake-getvar will tell you faster than us
<RP> sotaoverride: you're changing distro_features in a bbappend?
<sotaoverride> RP: no, addting python3 as a distro feature doesnt work for libgpioid, but giving libgpioid a bbappend with PACKAGECONFIG_append = " python3" works
<smurray> sotaoverride: python3 isn't a distro feature in oe-core, so I can't see why you'd expect that to work
<sotaoverride> smurray, is there a doc or something which lists what all can be set as a distro feature in oe-core?
<sotaoverride> or a bbclass or something even?
<smurray> sotaoverride: and the libgpiod recipe would have to be looking at DISTRO_FEATURES, which it does not
<sotaoverride> smurray: how do you get a recipe to start looking for distro features (just curious)
<smurray> actually, I take that back, it does look for ptest in the version in meta-oe master
<sotaoverride> ptest is a distro feature?
<sotaoverride> what it that a python testing framwork or something?
<smurray> p = package, ptest drives building self or unit tests into a -ptest package and installing them so they can be run on-target
<smurray> sotaoverride: if you look for use of bb.utils.contains or bb.utils.filter with DISTRO_FEATURES, you'll find many examples in PACKAGECONFIG definitions in recipes
<smurray> sotaoverride: as for all the valid distro features in oe-core / poky, I'm not aware of a single list, which is maybe a documentation project for someone
<Saur[m]> Since any recipe in any layer can add a test for a new distro feature, I doubt making such a list is worth the trouble as it will basically always be out-of-date...
<sotaoverride> smurray: whats libgpiod looking for ptest got to do with libgpiod being declared as a distro feature in oe-core or not?
<smurray> sotaoverride: nothing, except it's an example of how using DISTRO_FEATURES to define PACKAGECONFIG, which is what you seem to be asking about
<Saur[m]> There is nothing magical about `DISTRO_FEATURES`. It is just a variable. For anything to happen, recipes must explicitly look at it and decide themselves what to do if a given feature is set.
<sotaoverride> Ok just to make sure we are all on the same page here, I was thinking if python3 is setup as a distro feature in my distro config, then indivudal recipes, like libgpiod, dont have to worry about adding python3 to their PACKAGECONFIG
<smurray> that is definitely not the case
<sotaoverride> yikes, ok let me just go readup a little on distro features first...
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<Xagen> is there a tool for migrating formats when moving from dunfell based recipes to kirkstone?
<smurray> Xagen: see convert-overrides.py in scripts/contrib
<Saur[m]> Xagen: And convert-variable-renames.py
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<sotaoverride> is thre a relatively simple example where cmake or some other build tool is picking up PACKAGECONFIG enabled features
<RP> sotaoverride: cmake.bbclass just does EXTRA_OECMAKE:append = " ${PACKAGECONFIG_CONFARGS}"
<sotaoverride> RP: ok so basically im just trying to find an easy to follow example where a set of PACKAGECONFIGs are opted for / selected. What are the known mechanisms of doing that ... ...
<sotaoverride> for instance we have dlt-daemon_2.18.7.bb:PACKAGECONFIG[dlt-adaptor] = "-DWITH_DLT_ADAPTOR=ON,-DWITH_DLT_ADAPTOR=OFF,,dlt-daemon-systemd", now how do i set dlt-adaptor to -DWITH_DLT_ADAPTOR=ON for instance?
<RP> sotaoverride: PACKAGECONFIG:pn-dlt-daemon:append = " dlt-adaptor"
<sotaoverride> RP: ok thats just adding dlt-adaptor to dlt-daemon's PACKAGECONFIG block. I want dlt-adaptor to be initialized with one of the possible features , -DWITH_DLT_ADAPTOR=ON,-DWITH_DLT_ADAPTOR=OFF,,dlt-daemon-systemd, how do I make that selection..
<sotaoverride> PACKAGECONFIG:pn-dlt-daemon:append makes sense when I want to add on to the possible options for dlt-adaptor...
<sotaoverride> Im more trying to figure how to select an option..
<RP> sotaoverride: your question makes no sense. Either this feature is enabled (present in PACAGECONFIG) or it is disabled (not present in PACKAGECONFIG)
<RP> sotaoverride: the items you list are the configuration options used in either case and runtime dependencies needed. Did you look at the manual for PACKAGECONFIG?
<RP> sotaoverride: note that PACKAGECONFIG is a separate variable to PACKAGECONFIG[dlt-adapter] which is a flag of that variable
<RP> PACKAGECONFIG "abuses" flags as it's implementation
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<sotaoverride> RP: ive been looking at the manaul. Lets talk about the example in the manual for PACKAGECONFIG. The manaul says the gtk feature can have 3 possible options PACKAGECONFIG[gtk] = "--with-gtk3,--without-gtk3,gtk+3". What I dont quite understand is how these options are enabled.
<sotaoverride> manuals just a little confusing when its comes to PACKAGECONFIG, I'll revist it later and try to make sense of it...
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