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<hmw[m]> hi, when i boot my target weston seems to crash ( westonlog )"caught signal 15" and i get could not load cursor 'dnd-move'/'dnd-copy' errors
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<kroon> Hi. Is anyone familiar with the ucm-imx8m-plus board from CompuLab ? I don't understand which Yocto versions and which bsp-layers I am supposed to use.
<JosefHolzmayrThe> yo dudX
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<qschulz> o/
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<JaMa> if someone missed this grand announcement MS released bunch of gremlins eating git://github.com today https://github.blog/2021-09-01-improving-git-protocol-security-github/#no-more-unauthenticated-git update all your SRC_URIs before they eat them all on January 11
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* JosefHolzmayrThe can't help imagining the github octocat now sitting in front of a giant stack of repos and munching on them.
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<qschulz> tlwoerner: turns out upstream U-Boot does not work on our boards anymore 👍 will have to wait a bit for the addition to meta-rockchip :(
<coldspark29[m]> Is it really necessary to authenticate the ramdisk when using secure boot?
<qschulz> coldspark29[m]: all depends what you mean by "necessary"
<coldspark29[m]> s/when/to/, s/using//, s/boot/the device/
<qschulz> no it is not necessary to authenticate stuff after the BootROM has authenticated the first part of your chain of trust
<qschulz> which is probably the U-Boot SPL?
<qschulz> however, failing to authenticate stuff at any point in the chain of trust obviously breaks this chain of trust and you have an unsecure device, by design
<qschulz> which is usually not what you want when you want to use secure boot
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<coldspark29[m]> Yeah, but it is so horrible to get this to work using NXP's HAB
<qschulz> It's the equivalent of saying: do I really need to close the windows on the ground floor if I have a locked door with a unique key?
<qschulz> coldspark29[m]: welcome to vendor BSP world :)
<coldspark29[m]> Yeah I get the point
<coldspark29[m]> Just a bit frustrated here
<qschulz> I can understand
<qschulz> If it can help you, NXP aren't among the worst companies in terms of BSP :)
<qschulz> s/isn't/aren't/
<coldspark29[m]> Yeah, I asked on the forum if it is possible to sign a kernel FIT image as a whole with HAB and they were like "No, it isn't". Great, how is it possible then?
<coldspark29[m]> Oh you say there are worse. Great ^^
<coldspark29[m]> For Yocto I am so going mainline uboot
<mckoan> coldspark29[m]: do you have the link to the answer?
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<coldspark29[m]> mckoan: Yeah I guess my question was too short
<coldspark29[m]> So I wrote a new one
<coldspark29[m]> Suggesting that HAB can only boot authenticate FIT images when you fiddle with the source code
<coldspark29[m]> And then you also find things like this
<manuel1985> qschulz: Whick company makes the best bsps?
<manuel1985> Cause you said NXP are not amongst the worst.
<manuel1985> Which company sucks the least?
<JosefHolzmayrThe> TI and NXP are quite ok-ish, IMHO
<coldspark29[m]> In my experience TI is king haha
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<coldspark29[m]> Well but in the TI forum you get an extended answer from one of their engineers within less than a day
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<qschulz> manuel1985: Dare I say the company I work for :p ? No but honestly I had a good time with NXP compared to Allwinner, Amlogic and Qualcomm. Their datasheets are exceptionally good, well-written and complete. I'm fortunate enough to not have had to deal with their engineers too much so can't say if they are better than others in that regard
<manuel1985> Thanks guys, will keep that in mind.
<hpsy[m]> does "devtool deploy-target" not deploy the dependencies? I deployed a new application but it is missing the libraries that are in its DEPENDS
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<JosefHolzmayrThe> hpsy: nope, it doesn't
<hpsy[m]> Josef Holzmayr (TheYoctoJester): Ok, thanks.
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<coldspark29[m]> mckoan: Another question: Is it possible to use the normal U-Boot authentication with the uboot-imx fork? If yes, I would just use that
<coldspark29[m]> * normal U-Boot kernel authentication with, * use that instead of HAB
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<kanavin_> RP: I sorted upstream-status: pending patches by size and slowly working down the list starting from the biggest and skipping toolchain items (gcc/glibc and friends)
<kanavin_> (submitting) one patch per day keeps the tech debt away
<kanavin_> I hope we can eliminate at least those over 4K bytes in size, the rest is a very long tail, but easier to maintain due to their smaller sizes hopefully
<rburton> kanavin_: patch-a-day is really satisfying, i did that a few years ago for some time
<kanavin_> rburton, yes, it's important to not wear oneself out with this, one patch per day seems like a good amount
<kanavin_> especially if upstream starts making a fuss :)
<kanavin_> rburton, also there are patches which are actually not upstreamable
<RP> kanavin_: I love the idea, I've been trying to do something a little similar although I didn't think of doing it by size, I was going by most patched recipes! :)
<sveinse> What would it take to implement a scheme where the build logs were preserved alonside the sstate cache? One downside is that once an artifact is fetched from the sstate cache, it is not possible to get its build logs any more, right?
<kanavin_> RP, looking at strictly the patch sizes, the toolchain is where most of the biggest ones are, I'm sure khem is well aware
<kanavin_> rburton, e.g. there are pending patches for bdb. or zip :)
<rburton> yeah they're not going upstream are they
<kanavin_> I'll mark them as inappropriate when I get to them
<rburton> time to write a webapp to provide a random pending patch
<RP> kanavin_: I figured I knew more of the history of the libtool/gcc ones and they've long since needed better documentation and cleanup
<kanavin_> rburton, if we had a working patchbot, it could also nag people if they add pending patches and <insert criteria>
<kanavin_> criteria could be: you've exceeded your quota for adding pending patches over the past 24 months ;)
<RP> kanavin_: patchwork is being worked on and will come back, hopefully soon
<kanavin_> sveinse, you can easily reproduce the logs, but generally if you want to save them that needs to be done as a separate step after bitbake invocation but before erasing the build dir
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<rburton> kanavin_: haha harsh
<qschulz> RP: I hear no complaints for my untested autobuilder patches so I assume they work just fine :)
<RP> qschulz: I'm hoping you checked the site was updated as expected? :)
<sveinse> kanavin_: yeah, somehow the logs must be bound to the specific sstate artifact, so when reinstating the sstate artifiacts, it's easy to fetch the right logs
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<RP> JaMa: are you looking at the github url issue or should I do that?
<kanavin_> sveinse, perhaps you could make it a research project: add the logs to the artifact tarball itself
<sveinse> kanavin_: yeah, I'll need to dig into the sstate generation steps in bb to see if it can be done
<JaMa> RP: git:// ? I'm fixing it in various places to revive my CI jobs (most of them failed over night)
<JaMa> it will need to be updated in all the recipes for all OE releases, so it would be nice to get some agreement on ML first
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<RP> JaMa: I mean the https change for github. I'm thinking I should tweak the script
<qschulz> RP: yup they look ok, just need this honister patch so the branch is fixed :)
<JaMa> RP: do you plan to backport explicit branch names to older branches as well?
<JaMa> RP: because the explicit branches aren't really mandatory, right? while protocol=https is now for github repos
<RP> JaMa: no, I don't think we should do that. We could use the same script to change older branches though, or we might consider url rewriting. I've long since wanted the fetcher to handle parameter rewrites
<RP> JaMa: correct. I think we may just want to tweak the fetcher
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<JaMa> to adjust protocol transparently? that might work with github where the url is otherwise identical, but when I replaced all git:// with https:// for metadata URLs I got hit by git.yoctoproject.org adding /git in the URL
<JaMa> git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-virtualization
<RP> JaMa: we're only talking about github though?
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<JaMa> correct, I've just updated it everywhere for consistency
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<zeddii> RP: since 5.15 was tagged for LTS support a couple of days ago, I'll bring it in as a reference in the next few days. We can drop 4.14 in a month or so, and then I'll bring in something newer as well for the spring release (in case you have anyone asking).
<RP> zeddii: sounds good, thanks for the info! :)
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* zeddii runs another script update to meta-virt
* zeddii thanks RP for the automation :D
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* RP tries to remember what he was doing before the github emails came in
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<zeddii> hah. I read that and realized that I'd do that before getting to 5.15, which is why I messaged to remind myself :D
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<vermaete> If a recipe needs a command (e.g. 'timeout').   That's part of coreutils, but I prefer to use the one for busybox.
<vermaete> How to add this as a RDEPENDS in the recipe?
<vermaete> Not possible, I guess...
<RP> vermaete: it is why we've ended up with things like VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_getopt
<RP> vermaete: there isn't a good solution here :/
<vermaete> RP: thanks.  More reading to go.
<vermaete> BTW: i'm missing the mega manual :-(
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<JosefHolzmayrThe> RP: before github mails: drinking. after github mails: more drinking.
<JaMa> have someone see bitbake-diffsigs failing with "zstd: /*stdin*\: unexpected end of file" ?
<JaMa> RP: who is working on patchwork? there was some linter submitted for meta-oe repo, maybe these people can find some common ground to integreate it with patch-test or what was the name of the automatic reviews for oe-core patches https://github.com/openembedded/meta-openembedded/pull/465
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<RP> JaMa: that sounds like using an old siginfo with the new zstd format?
<RP> JaMa: I meant halstead was trying to bring the infrastructure back up. The code is a different question, maybe moto-timo?
<JaMa> old siginfo.. maybe, this sstate-diff directory should be newly created, but maybe it wasn't, will redo the test
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<JaMa> JosefHolzmayrThe: more drinking seems like obvious fix for any fetching issues :)
<JosefHolzmayrThe> JaMa: yep
<RP> don't tempt me...
<JaMa> and to prove the point I went to fridge for another shot of cough drops
<JosefHolzmayrThe> qschulz: RP is the aarch64 support for sdk in the docs? If not, should it be there or is it too early.?
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<RP> JosefHolzmayrThe: you're asking the question so I guess it isn't. It is well supported e.g. uninative relies on it so it is find to list
<RP> JosefHolzmayrThe: we can send bugs to rburton :)
<rburton> JosefHolzmayrThe: i sent a patch to fix the SDKMACHINE docs already
<JosefHolzmayrThe> RP: I just wasn't even aware it exists. That's why I'm asking.
<JosefHolzmayrThe> rburton: ah okay thanks
<rburton> JosefHolzmayrThe: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/machine-sdk <-- these are the core SDK targets
<rburton> meta-mingw adds some too
<JosefHolzmayrThe> Yeah mingw I knew
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* JosefHolzmayrThe faceplate over ppc
<JosefHolzmayrThe> *facpalm, even.
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<JaMa> almost :)
<JosefHolzmayrThe> thats what I get for IRCing on a tablet during a meeting.
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<smurray> so MS just broke everyone, is that correct?
<smurray> AFAICT there's about 600 SRC_URIs needing changes in the various BSP and other layers AGL uses :(
<smurray> to give an idea (this is a slight over-count): https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wrllj1jw/
<smurray> the meta-renesas / meta-rcar ones will likely be the ones that are slow to get fixed :/
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<smurray> fun! ;)
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<dvorkindmitry> smurray, so what is the plan? I am using dunfell now. How can I quickly solve the problem?
<smurray> dvorkindmitry: in your own layers, either change git://github.com to https://github.com or add ;protocol=https. For upstream layers maintainers will need to push updates
<smurray> dvorkindmitry: for gitsm://github.com it'd need to be adding ;protocol=https, I think
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<JaMa> don't change git:// to https:// in SRC_URI!!! that's the fetcher name which needs to stay git:// just add protocol=https or change it from protocol=git to protocol=https if it's there already, there is migration script from RP on ML which does exactly this
<JaMa> protocol=ssh is fine
<JaMa> and if you cannot change the recipes quickly, then use the bitbake changes from RP for bitbake fetcher to do it automagically for you
<smurray> JaMa: thanks
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<Granjow> Hi there, I have a question about creating a distro layer. I'd like to base it on the Poky distribution but I don't understand which configuration files I have to copy. When copying eta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf to my distro conf file, bitbake complains about "Uninative selected but not configured correctly", which I see is defined in the meta layer.
<gourve_l> hi! I have a virtual/recipe problem. I use opkg. I have 2 recipes: recipe-A and recipe-B which provide virtual/recipe. I created an image with recipe-A embedded and deployed it on some machines. Now, I'd like to replace recipe-A with recipe-B on the embedded targets automagically through a package update (opkg update/upgrade). Does anyone have an idea? Because changing PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/recipe seems
<gourve_l> not enough.
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<Granjow> Why is that happening? Do I need to copy other configuration files? Is there a better way (like extending the poky distro conf rather than just copying the files)?
<rburton> tgamblin: v2 of my imgtool patch sent, thanks for the comprehensive review :)
<mckoan> Granjow: this is the minimum example of a distro config file https://pastebin.com/fjeuVPfL
<tgamblin> rburton: PR is in for merge to master :)
<rburton> thanks
<rburton> looking forward to ripping some pieces out of meta-arm
<mckoan> gourve_l: not sure that PREFERRED_PROVIDER has an impect on the final virtual package
<mckoan> *impact
<Granjow> mckoan: thanks, build is running already again! :) Wouldn't that be a good addition to the docs?
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<gourve_l> mckoan: in fact, I don't see any virtual package. I see packages A and B providing the virtual/package (description in the file "Packages"), but no virtual package. But on target I can "opkg install --force-reinstall virtual/recipe" and it will reinstall recipe-A
<dvorkindmitry> what protocol is better to use for private github.com repos access with the key?
<mckoan> gourve_l: did you call bitbake package-index ?
<qschulz> dvorkindmitry: ssh?
<dvorkindmitry> qschulz: so better ssh://github.... ?
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<gourve_l> yes I did
<qschulz> dvorkindmitry: no, git://github.com/[...];protocol=ssh
<JaMa> dvorkindmitry: that doesn't work, you need to use protocol=ssh
<dvorkindmitry> thanks, all!
<qschulz> git:// is just a way for bitbake to know which fetcher to use
<mckoan> gourve_l: no clue
<qschulz> in that case, git
<gourve_l> mckoan: I have a doubt now, does package-index build the files Packages* only?
<mckoan> gourve_l: how do you feed the target system packages?
<gourve_l> rsync -razhP build/tmp/deploy/ipk machine:ipk/
<smurray> RP: the warning in bitbake might need a little more logic, I'm seeing a lot of: "WARNING: URL: %s uses git protocol which is no longer supported by github. Please change to ;protocol=https in the url."
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<dvorkindmitry> is it ok to write SRC_URI="https://github.com/lpereira/hardinfo.git;"; from now?
<JPEW> dvorkindmitry: "git://github.com/lpereira/hardinfo.git;protocol=https"
<smurray> dvorkindmitry: I was incorrect earlier as JaMa pointed out, it's ;protocol=https you want (I blame not having had coffee yet)
<dvorkindmitry> qschulz, oh, now it is clear!
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<JaMa> dvorkindmitry: just use the script from RP I mentioned
<dvorkindmitry> JaMa, thank you. now see your correcting message. but doesn't see the link to the script. sorry
<JaMa> yes, I didn't show the link, but it's not difficult to find
<vmeson> https://git.ostc-eu.org/distro/meta-python-mixin is showing up as "Archived project! Repository and other project resources are read-only"
<vmeson> agherzan: is that something you know about?
<vmeson> err: my bad: Project 'OSTC/OHOS/meta-python-mixin' was moved to 'distro/meta-python-mixin'. Please update any links and bookmarks that may still have the old path.
<vmeson> agherzan: I take that back, I think I have the right URL...
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<frosteyes> vd: did not see your questions yesterday - regarding nvme.
<frosteyes> If you want to know more about the machine, I did the benchmark on - http://www.frosteyes.dk/index.php/private/ryzen-5950x-workstation-update
<agherzan> vmeson: I'll update the index
<vmeson> agherzan: thanks.
<agherzan> We restructured the git instances due to Eclipse Foundation donation.
<agherzan> vmeson: updated
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<mckoan> which piece of code is responsible to call toolchain-scripts class ?
<mckoan> RP: could you give me some indication to understand the workflow ^^^
<mckoan> starting from populate_sdk how do you get to toolchain-scripts?
<mckoan> I can't find a clear sequence of function calls
<moto-timo> agherzan: the other fields are e.g. "file base" which are awkward because they use %branch% or %path% variables... the easiest thing is to look at another layer and copy-past. And pick a layer with the same web UI front end, so the full URLs are similar pattern.
<agherzan> That makes sense moto-timo
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<moto-timo> agherzan: I updated with the new URL... is the mailing-list/chat link different now too?
<agherzan> I've updated too :)
<michaelo> Oops, sorry, I missed the weekly engineering meeting because of the different daylight switching dates between Europe and the USA
<agherzan> Yes, the mailing list remained the same moto-timo
<agherzan> For now at least
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<moto-timo> agherzan: it looks correct now, but if you have any questions feel free to ping me or bluelightning or halstead
<agherzan> thanks, will do moto-timo
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<moto-timo> agherzan: URL in Contributing section of README.md needs to be updated as well
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<agherzan> good catch moto-timo - I've fixed it
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<RP> mckoan: I think toolchain-scripts is inherited by recipes which create the files and put them in packages
<RP> mckoan: or by things like the meta-environment recipe
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<RP> smurray: I did break that bb.warn line didn't I? :/
<RP> smurray: fix pushed
<ecdhe> Can I have a DEPENDS pin a specific version of a package? I'd like to pin dtc-native at version 1.5.0 but I don't care if other recipes use an older or newer version
<mckoan> ecdhe: DEPENDS = "dtc-native (>= 1.5.0)"
<ecdhe> thanks mckoan!
<Saur> Does that even work for DEPENDS? It is typically used for RDEPENDS...
<Saur> Normally you rely on making sure the version of the recipe is the one that you want.
<rburton> ecdhe: that doesn't work
<rburton> you can't use versions in DEPENDS
<ecdhe> I could set a preferred provider but I'm really not looking to perform a global override
<ecdhe> I just need v1.5.0 for this one dtbo
<Saur> Easiest then is probably to create a dtc-1.5 recipe that you can depend upon for your work.
<zeddii> _1
<zeddii> +1 even
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<mckoan> rburton: do yiu mean that versions in DEPENDS are no longer supported?
<ecdhe> Saur: dtc-1.5_1.0.0.bb?
<Saur> AFAIK, you can specify versions in DEPENDS, but they will be ignored.
<Saur> ecdhe: dtc-1.5_1.5.0.bb
<ecdhe> ahh, yes
<Saur> Since dtc uses a dtc.inc, it should be trivial to do.
<ecdhe> Just update the SRCREV and the licence check
<rburton> mckoan: never have been supported
<Saur> Just copy dtc-<version>.bb and change the SRCREV and LIC_FILES_CHKSUM as appropriate. You will also have to specify the path to dtc.inc as ${COREBASE}/meta/recipes-kernel/dtc/dtc.inc since I assume you will do this in your own layer rather than in meta.
<khem> jonmason: we have honister branch for meta-clang perhaps send a pull to backport https://github.com/kraj/meta-clang/commit/a5373e65e813fa95607d0a01bb34835ca12fdcc6
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<aldrich> Sorry if this has been posted -- is anyone hitting  ` The unauthenticated git protocol on port 9418 is no longer supported.` errors in their git:// fetcher?  (On dunfell)
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<JPEW> aldrich: I think github is dropping support for git protocol, but I don't know if that's the specific error you get from it
<aldrich> JPEW, most of the recipes using the git:// fetcher are throwing this error.  Has anyone hit this yet?
<aldrich> Just came up (at least for me), our CI/CD was green this morning
<JPEW> aldrich: Not sure then. Sorry
<aldrich> I was looking through the logs earlier today https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/%23yocto.2021-11-02.log.html  (it seems this came up earlier...)
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<Saur> aldrich: It has been discussed on the mailing lists. RP has provided patches to switch to https for all github URLs.
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<khem> zeddii: I am seeing an error in dmesg of qemuriscv64 [ 2.377558] db_root: cannot open: /etc/target
<khem> zeddii: it seems to be related to SCSI as per internet
<khem> other one is syscon-poweroff: probe of soc:poweroff failed with error -16
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<khem> nevermind zeddii it was silicon BSP which was inserting its nose into machine config and hijacking kernel version to use
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<RP> khem: I put a patch into contrib which attempts to update meta-oe's urls
<zeddii> phew
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