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uboot itself works, i can also see the kernel image loaded at the right address; but "go 0x21000000" only shows starting application and it does not seem to boot
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gaude >
any ideas how to debug this? in the u-boot config are some config options for xip but i guess they are only for loading uboot itself
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xypron: hi! yesterday I talked with musl author (Rich Felker aka dalias) on #musl channel about loff_t problem
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mps >
would you mind if I paste our conversation for you to look
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apritzel: hi! your patch doesn't apply to current master branch and I didn't looked deeply why
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mps >
apritzel: waiting for new one
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apritzel: but not in hurry, so when you finish just drop me a note
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mps: I posted it already, just a sec ....
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apritzel: hm, I don't see this in backlog here
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apritzel: thanks
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mps: yes I can have a look.
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I'm trying to use u-boot on qemu riscv, just for learning. I've prepared a really program (i.e. while (1) { }) that I've compiled using riscv64-unknown-elf-gcc. But when I try to boot the program using bootelf, I get Unhandled exception: Instruction access fault. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
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mps: we cannot get rid of loff_t as we copy a lot of kernel code to U-Boot. Does changing include/linux/types.h line 43 to #ifndef loff_t solve your problem?
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xypron: We don't need to get rid of loff_t, we just need to fixup the sandbox abstraction code to not use it?
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Or mps does the build fail later if you "make -k" and then it's loff_t in some of our internal code?
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Tartarus: I don't want to get rid of it, but define it on Alpine LInux.
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Tartarus: The current ifndef removes it on Alpine
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Yes, but that's the wrong direction for dealing with Alpine, the code should be portable instead
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If the problem is only in some exposed to userspace side of things
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Tartarus: Why should the definition of loff_t depend on __GNUC__?
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We are using it anyway.
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Maybe we don't need any #ifdef at all
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Because the first question to answer is are we talking about internal code, or exposed userspace stuff
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The latter needs to be written in a portable manner
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Tartarus: loff_t is used for internal interfaces here
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But first let mps check if that line can fix the problem at all.
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xypron: Where? os_get_filesize isn't internal interface exactly
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Show me cmd/bootm.c failing to compile, that's internal
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arch/sandbox/cpu/os.c is special
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Tartarus: os_get-filesize is sandbox internal.
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Right, so that's fix to not use loff_t
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Tartaus: OPENSSL_API_COMPAT 0x10101000L is Openssl 1.1.1. So this is what we require with my patch. Ubuntu up to 21.10 uses 1.1.1. ONly in 22.04 we get OpenSSL 3.0.0
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So we can't drop the cast because it's only a warning now with 3.0.0 ?
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Tartarus: We should have a solution to build without warning on Ubuntu 22.04. We want to package u-boot 2022.01 with it.
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Yes, I'll take the cast for now
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But what's the best future path? Is that only a warning with openssl 3.0.0 and we can't do something else clean that won't cause a problem with 1.1.1 ?
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xypron: does 22.04 ship with 3.0.0 *only*? Is that API compatible to 1.1.x?
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apritzel: We saw deprecation warnings without OPENSSL_API_COMPAT.
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Tartarus: I guess we wil have to use the 1.1.0 API for the next 3 years.
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xypron: I'm not in house now, will check when I come back
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apritzel: End of live for OpenSSL: OpenSSL 1.1.1September 11, 2018
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Sorry that was release
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apritzel: we tried openssl 3.0.0 on alpine but had to revert back 1.1, a lot of things breaks
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mps: same experience in Ubuntu. It was a large job.
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xypron: So in sum, that cast is the only way forward to support 3.0.0 and 1.1.1 without warnings from either/
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OK, thanks. Can you please reply to the email with that as well for the record? I'll push that and the mailmap change shortly
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sjg1: Tartarus: I get "OSError: [Errno 24] Too many open files" when buildman tries to build boards.cfg, is that a known issue?
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apritzel: repeatable?
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increasing the soft limit from 1024 to 65536 helps, but I wonder if that should be fixed in buildman instead?
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everytime
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I'd poke around a bit more to see how you're triggering that, yeah
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this machine has 256 cores, could that have an effect?
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dumb question, but how does one get an LED to blink in U-Boot?
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trying "led xxx blink" but no matter what I put for xxx I get "LED xxx not found (err=-19)"
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Tartarus: ulimit -n 1035 fails, -n 1036 works (and values above, of course)
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apritzel: Not your ancient slackware machine then? :)
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But yeah, no, not something that we normally see
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So it'd be good to know what's going on
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Tartarus: Ubuntu 20.04 on ThunderX2
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I guess yeah it could be that we can't normally open that many files at once on "small" machines
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I can debug a little, just wanted to check if that is known already
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i think it just might be the general thing about ulimit actually kicking in
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Because you have so many cores and can do so much
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Tartarus: it's really just creating boards.cfg, if that file is already around, everything works fine (even with -T 40 -j4)
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Yeah, but that's only 160 threads
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vs I think making that file opens all Kconfig files
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Another option would be to update buildman to use Kconfiglib more directly and not require parsing that legacy file
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Tartarus: it's not buildman, really, it's "tools/genboardscfg.py -f -j 255 -o /dev/null" that fails
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-j 254 works
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apritzel: forgot to tell you that your video patches are good, terminus fonts look nice on M1 (though somewhat big to my taste)
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mps: ah cool, thanks! You could try the sun12x22 font, and there are also smaller versions of Terminus somewhere
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apritzel: only problem is that moving cursor left deletes character on screen but character is not actually deleted
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with the arrow key, you mean?
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apritzel: sun fonts are ugly to my taste, but I tested it in sandbox and they are ok for someone who like them
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apritzel: yes, left arrow key
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ah, I dimly remember now that this was a problem, thanks for the heads up!
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looks like I use backspace but pressing enter it repeats command
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can you reply on the mailing list?
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apritzel: I'm not subscribed to ML
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maybe I should subscribe because I'm current u-boot maintainer for alpine, but I'm subscribed to much MLs
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apritzel: ah, missed this. thanks
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apritzel: couldn't the script itself read and raise the ulimit as needed? The problem also occurs on a machine with 16 cores and -j256.
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apritzel: .setrlimit(res.RLIMIT_NOFILE,(soft,hard)) resource.setrlimit(resource, limits)
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xypron: I wonder if a limit to --jobs is more useful
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xypron: or at least the default is min(cpu_count, 128) or so
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apritzel: ValueError: not allowed to raise maximum limit is what I get when I try raising RLIMIT_FILENO. Lowering works. Urrrgh
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xypron: depends on your hard limit, maybe?
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aprtizel: hard limit cannot be raised relative to what I set with ulimit
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apritzel: yes hard limit is the one that only can be lowered.
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I mean if your soft limit was already on your hard limit, then you cannot raise anymore
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Same on console with ulimit
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I should have called ulimit with -S -n and not with -n only.
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mps: the official Terminus font source has various sizes, including 10x20, 11x22, 12x24, 14x28
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mps: seems like the Linux git history contains some hints on how to get the .h file from the font source
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few years ago I started to add terminus fonts to kernel and looked this but someone was faster than me
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ah, apritzel left channel
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maybe I have my patches about this somewhere in old archives
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xypron: are you around? I'm back and have about hour or two to try and test loff_t problem
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what I need to change in include/linux/types.h, not sure I understood
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mps: the include has the typedef for loff_t
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typedef __kernel_loff_t loff_t;
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Can you try to change the #ifdef to ensure it is true
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mps: or just remove it
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`include/vsprintf.h:286:29: error: unknown type name 'loff_t'; did you mean 'off_t'?` this error when removed it
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mps: You meant: typedef off_t loff_t;?
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Or better kernel_off _t loff_t;
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I am only at my phone
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mps: is there a life image for Alpine?
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xypron: you mean live image
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mps: my typo, yes
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no, except docker file
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mps: docker is fine
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it is in docker repo, I don't know exact name, could ask our infra team
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xypron: on docker it is alpinelinux/build-base and it have alpine-sdk preinstalled and normal user setup
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mps: I was able to log into Docker image
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xypron: I don't have much experience with docker, prefer to use lxc and qemu
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xypron: this bug appears only when building sandbox, not on other targets I build
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mps: how did you get over: include/linux/string.h:67:13: error: conflicting types for 'strchrnul'
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xypron: never seen this
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mps: I just installed: apk add alpine-sdk bison flex git openssl-dev
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xypron: is that while building the efi capsule tool?
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xypron: also need bc dtc python3-dev swig bison flex openssl1.1-compat-dev py3-setuptools linux-headers
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openssl-dev is maybe openssl 3.0.0, not sure
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* vagrantc
is always disappointed when trivial spelling fixes don't make it into a released version :/
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i know it's not the most exciting thing :)
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it's half the reason i build ~rc versions :)
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xypron: 'apk version openssl' gives 1.1.1m-r1
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so, a binutils update in debian appears to break building qemu-ppce500_defconfig
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mps: I am able to reproduce the loff_t issue in Docker
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mps >
looks like it is ok, though I prefer explicit openssl1.1-compat-dev
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or at least, i
*think* it's a binutils update
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xypron: good, do you have idea what is cause
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mps: will come back to you
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xypron: ok, no hurries, and thanks for looking on it
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mps: but there are more issues: arch/sandbox/cpu/eth-raw-os.c:218:41: error: 'struct udphdr' has no member named 'source'
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xypron: yes, I saw these also
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xypron: it's not supposed to have a member named 'source' ;)
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and I have some bugs related to samsung peach pi chromebook on list to report but will do when I prepare machine to test
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(I guess musl follows BSD here)
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kettenis: I think so
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kettenis: how do you build sandbox_defconfig on BSD?
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glibc defines struct udphdr as a union with both the traditional BSD names and the non-portable Linux names
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xypron: I don't, it is non-portable code full of Linux-isms
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mps >
xypron: I build it on musl by disabling network options in virtio-net
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mps >
s/musl/alpine/
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mps >
but I think this should work on other musl based distros
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huh, I must be tired, 'disabling network options and virtio-net'*
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xypron: will look but can't remember rihgt now I've seen this
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