01:19 <kentonv> Hmm I suppose I should mention here: Sandstorm Development Group, Inc. was formally dissolved on March 21st, after the long-running lawsuit against it was finally dismissed (because... the plaintiff stopped answering communications...). We have an agreement from the investors allowing us to donate the IP to a non-profit group. Delaware law gives us 3 years from dissolution to do that.

01:19 <kentonv> If we can figure out how to transfer assets to Open Collective, I'm all for it

01:38 <ocdtrekkie> Woooooo!

01:42 <isd> ocdtrekkie: do you want to reach out to opencollective, or should I do it?

01:47 <isd> Also, kentonv: I would really like to get the etherpad let transferred so we can publish the update. I think the ball is in your court there.

01:47 <ocdtrekkie> I've had some preliminary discussion with them about asset transfer. I think domains is the big one, but there's stuff like "accounts for things" which are interesting.

02:02 <kentonv> isd, just tell me where I should send it (securely)... preferably not something where I need to learn a new command-line tool though.

02:03 <isd> do you have keybase?

02:04 <isd> Jacob Weisz: probably you should take the lead then, rather than me starting from scratch

02:09 <isd> kentonv: I think options are basically keybase or pgp: https://keybase.io/isd

02:09 <ocdtrekkie> Yeah I'll have to pick up that thread, it was exploratory at the time.

02:09 <kentonv> isd, sounds like two things that require me learning a new command-line tool. :/

02:09 <isd> The former is probably easier if you can't recall how to use the later.

02:09 <isd> They have a GUI chat thing.

02:09 <ocdtrekkie> Keybase has a UI

02:10 <ocdtrekkie> And the file sending between people is end to end.

02:11 <kentonv> ok but I have to install something then?

02:11 <ocdtrekkie> Probably, the web app doesn't do the fancy stuff.

02:12 <isd> Is encrypting a thing fancy?

02:12 <isd> There is a web thing, but yeah, I don't know how much it can do.

02:15 <ocdtrekkie> I think the web app just handles the general web of trust stuff of following and proving. The Electron app does the chat, wallet, etc.

02:15 <isd> https://keybase.io/docs/the_app/install_linux

02:15 <kentonv> trusting an unmaintained web app to encrypt a key sounds sketchy anyway

02:16 <isd> Yeah, I there's a reason I don't know much about the web app

02:16 <kentonv> isd, I could share it with you in a Sandstorm grain. But I don't have you in my contacts on Alpha. So first I will share some other, dummy grain with you. If you log in using your github identity to accept my share link, then I will be able to securely share other grains with you by your github ID.

02:17 <kentonv> https://alpha.sandstorm.io/shared/AgjRNwTSsSAq2de9ZvZHDSmKtUNtsa3oZ8OgaJpg8nF

02:18 <isd> Logged in; I assume you saw since you deleted the grain.

02:19 <kentonv> yes. And now I've shared a davros grain with you, by your github ID. Link should be in an email.

02:21 <isd> Downloaded. feel free to delete.

02:22 <kentonv> done

02:55 <isd> ocdtrekkie: pushed an update. Then I noticed the appMarketingVersion still said "TODO"; expect another in just a minute.

03:00 <isd> Woo: https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/h37dm17aa89yrd8zuqpdn36p6zntumtv08fjpu8a8zrte7q1cn60?experimental=true

03:12 <ocdtrekkie> Woo! Will start testing when I can.