<TimMc>
I was hoping to use SandCal to create a shared calendar and then subscribe to it from Thunderbird on my laptop, but Thunderbird seems to totally fail to load events from the ICS URL. :-(
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<TimMc>
Google Calendar manages to subscribe properly, though, and I suspect this is a Thunderbird problem. It has... a lot of problems.
<TimMc>
If anyone has a recommendation on a replacement calendaring client for the Linux desktop, I'm all ears.
<isd>
Can you provide more detail? What happens when thunderbird tries to subscribe?
<TimMc>
It "subscribes" but events just never show up.
<isd>
It's quite possible I'm feeding it garbage somehow, and gcal is dealing with it better.
<isd>
I wish I knew where to look for thunderbird's logging
<TimMc>
It's possible. Actually, I should be able to test this by exporting and importing.
<TimMc>
The ICS file imports from disk just fine. This is a Thunderbird-fails-at-network-feeds thing.
<TimMc>
It stopped being able to read Google Calendar feeds a while back, and I had thought that was a Google thing, but I bet it's all network feeds.
<isd>
Ok. That is indeed disappointing.
<TimMc>
Thunderbird is second-class or lower at Mozilla, and the calendaring seems to be second-class even within Thunderbird. I need to migrate off this thing.
<TimMc>
I love the keyboard accessibility of SandCal.
<ocdtrekkie>
You prefer a desktop mail client, TimMc?
<isd>
I have literally never tried to use it mostly via keyboard! as it turns out, browsers do a good job with this stuff if you just don't muck with it :P
<TimMc>
isd: Keep it simple and it just works. :-)
<TimMc>
ocdtrekkie: It's what I'm used to. I've only ever used, uh... Thunderbird, maybe Evolution, something else?
<ocdtrekkie>
Cuz I haven't used anything but webmail since like... AOL desktop was popular. But also if your webmail client is Gmail, I can absolutely understand not wanting to use it.
<TimMc>
isd: You could optimize it more for keyboard, like pre-positioning the focus when creating or editing an event, or allowing Enter to submit the field... but that just saves a few Tab presses.
<TimMc>
ocdtrekkie: Oh, sorry... I thought you said calendar client.
<TimMc>
I havne't used Thunderbird for mail in a while. Now I use Claws, which is also a desktop mail client. :-)
<ocdtrekkie>
Neat! That's a good use for SandCal. Our local collection actually puts out their own ICS endpoint we can subscribe to, and it's definitely nice to have.
<TimMc>
You know what would be really nice is a tool to take a list of events/dates and make all-day events out of them as an ICS file. I could probably write that pretty quickly, and that would make it easier to make these calendars.
<isd>
Yeah, that sounds pretty trivial.
<TimMc>
Might make a little web page people can paste stuff into. :-)
<TimMc>
maybe I'll do that tomorrow
<TimMc>
OK, question: When I do "see who has access" on this SandCal, I see three different Sharing Links like "connected external app (8:03:52 PM)"
<TimMc>
What determines when one of those shows up in that list?
<TimMc>
I'm guessing this Subscribe link is generated anew each time the page is loaded, and only becomes "real" if it is used within X minutes, after which it shows up in the list?
<ocdtrekkie>
That's how offer templates work, yeah
<TimMc>
So if I email someone that link, but don't use it myself, they have to use it within X minutes or it won't work?
<ocdtrekkie>
Ooh, I see how that would present a problem.
<ocdtrekkie>
Yeah, I think as long as you use it yourself, it should then be valid to share with anyone else.
<ocdtrekkie>
Ian, both your app updates are approved.