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<TimMc> Mmm... can someone ban the spammer from the mailing list?
<isd> kentonv: ^
<kentonv> TimMc, isd, ugh... it's a different email address / google account every time, and they seem to have automated joining the group before posting, which means they don't get moderated
<kentonv> not really sure what I can do
<isd> I have no idea what moderation tools google groups provides
<ocdtrekkie> I keep reporting them as abuse, but considering the platform, I don't expect it to improve on its own.
<ocdtrekkie> We could move to an approval flow for the list, but then I imagine we'd need to tell people how to tell us they are real.
<isd> Is there an option to moderate posts from new members?
<ocdtrekkie> I don't know how often the dev list still gets new members.
<isd> ...which seems to suggest there is.
<kentonv> ok I enabled that...
<isd> That should help
<kentonv> will mean more people confused why their posts don't post until I get around to approving... oh well
<ocdtrekkie> Can you add additional moderators?
<isd> I'd be willing to share some of the burden.
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<ill_logic> Is it easy to get really old versions of Sandstorm apps?
<kentonv> ocdtrekkie, isd, made you both moderators, so I think you'll now get notification emails when there's stuff to moderate. Be warned, the UI you have to click through is terrible.
<isd> Ok, cool.
<isd> I will brace myself :P
<ocdtrekkie> ill_logic: Relatively. What do you need?
<ocdtrekkie> I am used to dealing with bad Google UI.
<isd> ill_logic: iiuc the spks are still up there, and you should be able to just grab `https://app-index.sandstorm.io/packages/<package-id>`, but I don't know if there's a way to discover the correct value for `<package-id>`.
<ill_logic> Jacob Weisz: Like, the oldest version of the etherpad app we can find.
<kentonv> ocdtrekkie, Groups is significantly worse than average Google UI. :/
<kentonv> do not under any circumstances open it on mobile
<ill_logic> A nice to have, not vital.
<ocdtrekkie> I have a bad habit of archiving spks. Also the legacy app market has an extremely old release as well.
<ocdtrekkie> I can probably get you almost any old SPK that's been relatively widely distributed.
<kentonv> FWIW I think the app market serves all old SPKs if you know the package ID
<ocdtrekkie> It does
<ocdtrekkie> https://sandstorm.io/apps/index has a very very old release
<ill_logic> Thanks!
<ocdtrekkie> You can probably find one or two older by seeing if a lower numbered Etherpad SPK is in the folder too. But these are all pre-App Market versions that don't even have most package metadata.
<ocdtrekkie> At home I have a copy as far back as etherpad2.spk if you end up wanting older.
<ocdtrekkie> Oh, it is in that directory on the server too.
<ocdtrekkie> Just checked.
<ill_logic> Is the directory something I'd have access to?
<ocdtrekkie> They're all just at sandstorm.io/apps/etherpad2.spk for the legacy market.
<ocdtrekkie> I just modified the URL from the listed release to find it.
<kentonv> acronymy.spk duoludo.spk ethercalc-201410190.spk ethercalc-201412050.spk ethercalc-201412092.spk ethercalc.spk ethercalc2.spk ethercalc3.spk etherpad.spk etherpad10.spk etherpad2.spk etherpad3.spk etherpad4.spk etherpad5-1.spk etherpad5-2.spk etherpad5.spk etherpad6.spk etherpad7.spk etherpad8.spk etherpad9.spk ghost2.spk ghost3.spk ghost4.spk ghost5.spk groovebasin.spk groovebasin2.spk ipython-notebook.spk ipython-notebook2.spk
<kentonv> mailpile.spk mailpile2.spk mediagoblin.spk mediagoblin2.spk mediawiki.spk meteor-blocks.spk meteor-todos.spk roundcube.spk sharelatex.spk shell-busybox.spk ssjekyll.spk ssjekyll10.spk ssjekyll11.spk ssjekyll2.spk ssjekyll3.spk ssjekyll4.spk ssjekyll5.spk ssjekyll6.spk ssjekyll7.spk ssjekyll8.spk ssjekyll9.spk telescope.spk tinytinyrss.spk tinytinyrss2.spk tinytinyrss3.spk wave.spk wave2.spk wordpress.spk y.spk
<kentonv> that's all the files in that directory FWIW
<kentonv> pretty sure etherpad.spk is the first spk ever made
<ill_logic> Jacob Weisz: okay I saved in thanks! you can undo it if you want
<ocdtrekkie> Undo what?
<ill_logic> Oh, sorry I thought you modified something on the server.
<ill_logic> You just modified the url.
<ill_logic> in your browser
<ocdtrekkie> Nope, that's just always been there. Yeah.
<ocdtrekkie> kentonv: Can you make my Gmail account the moderator? jtness@
<kentonv> ocdtrekkie, done
<ocdtrekkie> I have my real email subscribed, but due to Google account nonsense, I can't actually sign into anything with it or something.
<ocdtrekkie> Weird account quirks with both Google and Microsoft led me to create separate aliases just to handle email from them respectively too. 🤷‍♂️
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