10:08 <re_irc> <@milk:group.lt> howdy!

15:01 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> I'm not sure my word is good topic to talk about on this channel, but it's a question about trademark issues about printing rust's character and "rust" name on PCB silkscreen, so I'll talk about it here.

15:01 <re_irc> I am doing private outsourcing that develop hardware and software with open source, except for some codes with NDAs

15:01 <re_irc> At this time, I put the character "ferris" in the hardware(PCB) but I'd like to hear your opinion on whether it's an infringement in relation to the recent trademark issue or whether it's better to remove it out.

15:02 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> Ferris is - I believe - not protected by any trademark

15:02 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> this is the thing.

15:02 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> https://psion.agg.io/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ZptLUdMOuysOccLBygIBzLWV/image.png

15:03 <re_irc> <@milk:group.lt> Ferris is pretty good

15:03 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> The Rust name is

15:03 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> on the back silk layer.

15:03 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> I believe saying "powered by Rust" is completely fine

15:03 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> (ianal)

15:04 <re_irc> <@k900:conduit.0upti.me> Ferris is public domain

15:04 <re_irc> <@k900:conduit.0upti.me> And not owned by the Rust Foundation at all

15:04 <re_irc> <@k900:conduit.0upti.me> https://rustacean.net/

15:04 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> Also there is no new trademark policy yet - it's the existing one you want to look at. Which is unfortunately incredibly vague

15:05 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> If you want to be extra extra sure, contact the foundation and ask them for a license, and I'm sure they'll be completely fine with it.

15:05 <re_irc> In practical terms, "powered by Rust" is one of the things they definitely don't care about, and you'll be fine

15:05 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> Guys, thanks your opinions. much helped

15:06 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> The good thing is ferris is definitely okey.

15:06 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> About "Powered buy rust" or other world. I need to look again the law and others.

15:07 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> Practically speaking the rust foundation doesn't want random groups to present their work as official Rust (TM) work

15:07 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> So if you called it "the Rust embedded platform" you might have problems

15:08 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> Yeah "This PCB is produced by RUST(tm)" would be problem

15:08 <re_irc> <@pmnxis:matrix.org> Make senese!

15:09 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> But again the only way to be 100%, no doubt sure, is to get a licence from the foundation

15:09 <re_irc> <@larunite:matrix.org> In the absence of that you are running the risk of them deciding you violate their trademark, at which point it becomes a legal matter. I am just saying that I think the chance of that is ~0%

19:55 <re_irc> <@firefrommoonlight:matrix.org> : Kind of weird IMO

19:55 <re_irc> <@firefrommoonlight:matrix.org> It's like labeling PCBs as "powered by C"