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<dalan0382> Hi hi #ruby - is there a better alternative for `obj.prop ? obj.prop : nil` ?
<dalan0382> Basically - use this value if present else `nil`
<ox1eef_> False can only be one of two things in Ruby: false, or nil. And often you don't care which of the two it is. So why not just 'obj.prop' ?
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<dalan0382> ox1eef_ Ahh yesss - this was the obvious thing I couldn't see
<johnjaye> if accepts both false and nil. which makes sense
<johnjaye> i've heard scheme has some problems with this. but i don't recall exactly
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<blackmetal> now i just found VSCO 01 for Lr 4 & 5.rar through to vol 7 on my backup drive, containing the color curves of all the great classic analog cameras
<blackmetal> should i just convert them all to ruby+libvips as well?
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<blackmetal> mass-convert all to ruby and have the coolest collection of ready-to-run presets anyone has ever seen?
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<friendlypunk> HAI
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<adam12> friendlypunk: OHAI
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<friendlypunk> xD adam12
<adam12> friendlypunk: how goes
<friendlypunk> slowly but surely. I'm doing the powershell course on codecademy. and u?
<adam12> friendlypunk: Just writing Ruby and screaming at cloud vendors. My favourite of all things (at least the Ruby part)
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<friendlypunk> adam12: how long have you been writing Ruby?
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<leftylink> dang. hard to believe it's been 13 years of writing Ruby for me. to this day I still wonder if it was pure luck/circumstance that Ruby is my scripting language instead of Python
<leftylink> or if, due to personality and preferences, it was inevitable that it would be Ruby
<leftylink> but, what is any individual's personality/preferences but a product of their circumstances?
<adam12> friendlypunk: ~ 2004?
<adam12> I never did Python until much, much later in life.
<adam12> I still remember using Rails pre-1 and telling my now wife that if I figure out Rails, life will change. And it did, but I don't think necessarily _just_ because I learned Rails, but the software developer ecosystem matured in some ways.
<adam12> Before that it was a gamble what kind of PHP/Perl/C(cgi-bin)/Tcl project I'd end up on, and pay was always meh.
<adam12> I didn't mind those languages either, but job quality definitely improved with the Ruby and Rails combo.
<adam12> School was C/Turing/Pascal so I doubt that would have swayed me into Python at all.
<weaksauce> of those two i started with python and grew to dislike it quite a bit
<weaksauce> then tried ruby and loved it
<friendlypunk> Cool. I like ruby but idk where to start.
<adam12> I mean, with anything, scratch an itch. At least that way you'll have a passion for whatever it is.
<adam12> Are you still learning Ruby? and not sure how to _learn_ Ruby? or what to build with it
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<friendlypunk> adam12: I'm passionate about many things in the field of cyber. I just don't know where to start. I've read entire books on ruby and studied many metasploit scripts so I understand alot. I guess writing complicated programs is what I am lacking
<friendlypunk> Since I have never done it before.
<adam12> friendlypunk: Ahh. Yeah. I can understand that.
<adam12> Metasploit is good. Check on Ronin too, if you haven't already.
<adam12> As far as writing complicated programs, I think it's mostly just trial by fire. But there's a good talk by Gary Bernhardt about Functional Core, Imperative Shell. It's a style of architecting large applications and making it easily testable and composable. Might be worth a view.
<mooff> hmm, that sounds interesting
<mooff> trial by fire is the way
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<friendlypunk> adam12: thanks I'll check that link out
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