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<leftylink> pandabot: what's ruby changes
<pandabot> Don't know rubychanges
<leftylink> what
<leftylink> how can you not know
<leftylink> pandabot: learn rubychanges https://rubyreferences.github.io/rubychanges/
<pandabot> Learned new fact rubychanges; 451 facts total
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<cxl> Hi all, I'm getting reacquainted with Rails and I'm wondering: how can I create a form that hits a particular controller and action without form_for @my_model? The reason being that I want the user to be able to upload multiple files in one go, but my underlying model represents each file separately; so it would be confusing to have form_for @my_model with more than one file, then loop over, then create each
<cxl> model from each file.
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<jhass[m]> cxl: Checkout the `from_with` helper, it takes either a model, a path, a scope or a combination thereof as needed
<jhass[m]> It can also often make sense to create a dedicated ActiveModel::Model for your form, you don't have to use ActiveRecord models
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<cxl> jhass[m]: I don't quite get your second sentence. Where could I learn more about this?
<cxl> jhass[m]: so you mean having a specific model that is only for the form, and the action in that model's controller creates individual models from the file?
<jhass[m]> Yes for example
<jhass[m]> As an option. You can also just build model less forms with form_with and just dissect params manually
<jhass[m]> form_with largely replaces form_for and form_tag
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<cxl> thanks, I'll try that
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<introom> hi. what's `actable` in rails?
<jhass[m]> Doesn't sound like a standard feature, it's probably coming from some gem
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<introom> from this file /ruby/gems/2.7.0/gems/active_record-acts_as-5.0.3/lib/active_record/acts_as/relation.rb
<introom> right.
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<introom> thanks for the hint
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<Laplace> Can a module add/update class attributes and instance attributes when it is included?
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<havenwood> Laplace: Yes, it can for the class or module it's included in.
<havenwood> Here's an example:
<havenwood> module Meaning def self.included(mod) = mod.instance_variable_set(:@meaning, 42) end
<Laplace> havenwood: Yeah I think I managed to do it using class_variable_set
<Laplace> base.class_variable_set(...)
<havenwood> module Wombat; include Meaning; def self.meaning = @meaning end
<havenwood> Wombat.meaning #=> 42
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<havenwood> Laplace: Class variables are generally frowned upon these days and Matz considers them soft deprecated but won't remove them since it'd break code.
<havenwood> We should really update the class variable documentation to reflect that status quo...
<Laplace> Is there a different way to do this? I am trying to make a module which when is included (or extended, I am indifferent) it creates a dictionary to store metadata
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<havenwood> Laplace: I don't quite follow from that but I bet folk here could give recommendations if the code is shareable.
<Laplace> Here's a working example using class_variable_set, would love to know if there is a better way to do it https://pastebin.com/RcSemKZR (even a few pointers are fine)
<ruby[bot]> Laplace: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
<havenwood> Laplace: On first glance, looks like an instance variable would suffice. It's pretty normal to swap out old class variables for instance variables that can do the same thing.
<Laplace> I don't want the schema here to be created/recomputed per instance though
<havenwood> Check my example above. It's an instance variable on the class itself not an instance of the class.
<havenwood> I show a module, but it works the same for a class.
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<havenwood> If I'm just missing the problem, say a bit more about why an instance variable on the class doesn't work?
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<havenwood> Usually, instance variables are used inside a method and are scoped to the instance of the class. You can also define instance variables at the top level of a class, where they'll be available to the class itself not instances of the class.
<havenwood> Unless I'm missing something, you can just swap to `instance_variable_set` and otherwise use this the same.
<havenwood> I'm assuming you'll then mutate this value, but you could alternatively set a CONSTANT variable default.
<havenwood> If you're not mutating it, use a CONSTANT rather than @instance_variable.
<Laplace> Got it, thank you!
<Laplace> I'll work on swapping
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<isene> adam12: Thank you for all the help. I have now pushed a working gem for XRPN. I manouvered back and forth until I landed on a working (and simple) way of handling my requirements. Thank you for the levelling up of my knowledge.
<isene> ox1eef_: ^^^ you too.
<adam12> isene: yw!
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<joto> isene well done
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