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<ox1eef_> I'd **guess** 95% of people using Ruby professionally are using Rails.
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<FullMetalStacker> wow
<FullMetalStacker> would you guess that those use Ruby *only* for Rails, or also for something else, e.g. GUI applications or CLI tools, etc.?
<weaksauce> i mean chef is ruby and so it metasploit
<zaben[m]1> Puppet also is Ruby
<ox1eef_> Did python tools not more or less supersede things like chef, and puppet ?
<ox1eef_> And Go. I think Go became a preferred alternative in that space as well.
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<zaben[m]1> they all have their place. Puppet is still actively used by orgs (including mine) for VM management. While Ansible is used in equipment management like switches/routers/etc. Of course there is Docker around the place for applications/teams that prefer to use that instead
<ox1eef_> Good to know !
<weaksauce> oh and homebrew is also ruby
<ox1eef_> A lot of open source is Ruby. Much less of it is Ruby you can be paid to work on.
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<Al2O3> ROR is ruby :)
<Al2O3> I'd also guess that most ruby folks know or appreciate ST, ObjC, and maybe some functional language/runtime systems.
<Al2O3> but, do they know about RIOCC?
<Al2O3> International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest... or IORCC? )
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<ox1eef_> I haven't heard of that. I know of the obfuscated C competiton from years ago.
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<Al2O3> ox1eef_: yah, there was in the 2004 timeframe the IORCC
<Al2O3> it lasted exactly one year.
<Al2O3> apparently it was classic waste of time, informative, and showed tricks and techniques that most rubyists hated to see.
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<ox1eef_> I can imagine the flip flop operator making an appearance then :)
<Al2O3> I think the code examples are all online.
<Al2O3> This was like 19 years ago.
<Al2O3> I may have all the submissions on a computer somewhere.
<ox1eef_> Cool :)
* Al2O3 looks up on shelf of old hardware (I have never gotten rid of a computer in my lifetime that I used for work), and see it is an iMac white.
<Al2O3> I would have to get it down, find power cord, and turn it on, and then do something useful with it. Not likely today.
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<ox1eef_> No worries. Don't feel pressured to do that.
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<FullMetalStacker> can anyone recommend a great resource for learning how to create desktop apps with ruby?
<FullMetalStacker> i mean GUI tools for the destop
<weaksauce> it's not a popular thing but you can do rubymotion
<weaksauce> or bind to some library like gtk
<FullMetalStacker> yeah for GTK or Qt I meant. rubymotion is a no-go for me with that hilarious Mac prerequisite for the dev machine
<FullMetalStacker> yes, thos things i mean. i am searching for some good resource to learn that
<FullMetalStacker> e.g. with qtbindings and then how to do the app with QT. some beginners course resource etc. i mean
<FullMetalStacker> oh qtbindings is abandoned
<weaksauce> doubt you will find anything
<weaksauce> just read the docs and look at the examples
<FullMetalStacker> Shoes! looks promising. It also comes with own tutorials, etc. but also last commit 2019... :-(
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