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<mooff> ^ it happens, lol
<John_Ivan_> mooff, yes ID3
<John_Ivan_> and the like
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<John_Ivan_> mooff, do they get lost on copy as attributes do? (such as date creation/modification/access?)
<mooff> John_Ivan_: naw, they're part of the file data itself
<John_Ivan_> that sounds good/promising. mooff does it affect checksum result then?
<mooff> yes, it certainly should
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<mooff> have a poke with https://github.com/krists/id3tag
<John_Ivan_> will do. thanks.
<John_Ivan_> I'm debating whether I should just keep my data in a csv file, with the metadata, just pointing at the files on disk
<John_Ivan_> versus tagging them with id3
<John_Ivan_> the problem here is that if it affects the checksum, it will be problematic to compare to new incoming data
<John_Ivan_> e.g "do I already have this?"
<John_Ivan_> the nice thing about keeping the checksum intact is that I can chuck everything in one folder
<John_Ivan_> and not care about order at all, as the csv file keeps everything searchable.
<John_Ivan_> interactable. and separate.
<John_Ivan_> maybe id3 tags aren't a good idea after all ;/
<mooff> check out MusicBrainz Picard
<John_Ivan_> will do
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<John_Ivan_> mooff, thanks mate, but I think I decided to not use tags.
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<John_Ivan_> I will use a csv file containing all metadata about the files on disk.
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<mooff> John_Ivan_: try making a copy you don't mind messing up, then running MusicBrainz Picard on it
<mooff> and/or MediaMonkey
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<mooff> i feel like something like that might be what you want in the end
<mooff> if it were my library i'd be looking to clean up the tags so they look nice in a media player
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<John_Ivan_> mooff, if you insist, I will give it a try then. :)
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<jongsta> anyone know why this fails when remotely through capistrano? su -lc "source ~/.rvm/scripts/rvm user && rvm install ruby-2.7.1 user"
<oz> nope, sorry. I don't use capistrano or rvm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<havenwood> jongsta: What error does it fail with?
<jongsta> failed: "sh -c 'su user -c \"source /home/user/.rvm/scripts/rvm & rvm install ruby-2.7.1\"'" on IP
<havenwood> jongsta: That's not a helpful error, seems it swallowed the real one. I'd expect for you to use a wrapper if you want to do this manually — that's the RVM way. Or for cap particularly, you can use the gem. https://rvm.io/deployment/capistrano
<havenwood> jongsta: If you don't want to use the gem, see the surrounding docs for god, init, etc that show using wrappers.
<havenwood> jongsta: RVM makes a wrapper (shim) that you can run RVM with in this fashion and it'll autoconfigure ruby-2.7.1 for you.
<havenwood> jongsta: An aside, but you should bump to the newest Ruby 2.7.
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<jongsta> havenwood: we require to use this specific version until otherwise told
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<adam12> morning
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<mooff> morning (UGT)
<mooff> should i check in Gemfile.lock to my gem's repo?
<weaksauce> yes
<mooff> what's the benefit?
<weaksauce> reproducibility?
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<mooff> sold
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<adam12> Ooh, Gemfile.lock in gem repo's is a spicy take. I am normally in favour of this, but it actually bit me recently.
<mooff> how did it bite you?
<adam12> I can't remember the specifics, but somehow something was out of date, even tho it looked like it wasn't.
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<rapha> evening all
<rapha> how's everything?
* rapha is on vacation, and what does he do ... some ruby
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<adam12> rapha: lol. I do the same sometimes.
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<adam12> mooff: I've gone back on not having a Gemfile.lock for gems, but it is the official guidance of Bundler to have a Gemfile.lock. https://bundler.io/guides/faq.html
<rapha> adam12: just with the pressure from work gone i remembered again that i wanted to have a thing that always shows the last 15 minutes or so of internet bandwidth usage on the house's central router.
<adam12> Oooh, they added a new FAQ entry with a suggestion on deleting Gemfile.lock. Interesting.
<rapha> it's probably going to end up being more JS than Ruby.
<rapha> oh, when and for what reason(s) should we (not) delete it?
<adam12> rapha: Gemfile.lock in gems can be problematic because during CI you might not notice tests breaking due to dependencies changing. Official stance for gems used to be not commiting Gemfile.lock, but this changed, with guidance for CI to delete Gemfile.lock during the CI run.
<rapha> oh, it's a gem-specific thing, alright
<John_Ivan> hi, any particular idea why attempting to choose the delimeter for a csv file under the "CSV.open()" call, I get back saying the function only expects 1..2 arguments? the API/Manual clearly offers multiple overloads.
<John_Ivan> my code: CSV.open("a-csv.csv", "w+:UTF-8", {:col_sep => "\t"})
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<John_Ivan> I get the error: "`open': wrong number of arguments (given 3, expected 1..2) (ArgumentError)"
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<mooff> thanks for the info wrt Gemfile.lock :-)
<rapha> John_Ivan: indeed, same with with ruby 3
<rapha> also open(filename, {}) complains it wants a string
<John_Ivan> :(
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<rapha> aha
<rapha> CSV.open('a-csv.csv', 'w+:UTF-8', col_sep: "\t") works
<rapha> and i remember there was a thing about that and the thing had a name
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<rapha> but i thought that it was only syntactic sugar to be able to leave the curly braces out
<John_Ivan> rapha, thanks a lot. any place I can contact the owner to notify the issue?
<rapha> John_Ivan: ah, i think that open is not defined as open(filename, mode, options={}), but as open(filename, mode, **options)
<rapha> and so it's not an issue
<rapha> but by design (tm)
<John_Ivan> I see. odd. I gave it a try now. I get a different error
<John_Ivan> my code: CSV.open("a-csv.csv", "w+:UTF-8", :col_sep "\t")
<rapha> okay, my bad
<John_Ivan> > syntax error, unexpected string literal, expecting ')'
<rapha> i should i told you :col_sep => "\t"
<John_Ivan> oh
<rapha> col_sep: "\t" is syntactic sugar for =>
<John_Ivan> yeah it works now.
<John_Ivan> appreciate it.
<rapha> keep rockin' :)
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<rapha> say y'all ... my rails days are a long, long time ago, and even my sinatra days have been a few years. nowadays, is there a way of teaching a web server Ruby that's as convenient an troublefree as, say, it is with PHP using php-fpm?
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<newton> passenger maybe?
<rapha> good lord, that is STILL not dead?
<rapha> they should pay people recompensation for having to touch that
<newton> I probably wouldn't use it now but found it pretty convenient pre-docker ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<rapha> i might be a special person then ... same feeling about docker :P
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<adam12> rapha: I use dokku almost everywhere. It's more encompassing, since it also does postgres and things, but it's quite nice. Install it on a VM and then host all your apps on it.
<adam12> rapha: Passenger works great but its' only a small part of the picture. Ruby version, dev dependencies, etc.
<rapha> yeah it all gets so much so quickly
<adam12> I won't do much Ruby without Docker anymore. It's just so much nicer.
<adam12> And especially not for deployment. Dokku or Caprover. git push and done.
<newton> does dokku handle SSL generation stuff?
<rapha> the thing i always liked about PHP (say about it what you will, otherwise), was always that after what basically amounts to a simple "apt install php" you can write a something.php file and things will work right away. sure, that has its downsides and implications, but for some quick and small things can be very nice. wondering if something similar could be achieved with just rack and erb.
<newton> I got tired of doing self-hosting so I started using heroku but if dokku is just as easy I might try it out
<adam12> newton: Yes. It's an add-on official plugin for LetsEncrypt.
<rapha> Looking at its website, Dokku looks nice for when you've bought into the whole swath of things that come with it, most notably, Docker.
<adam12> rapha: It's still probably similar but not exactly, since now they have a package manager too (composer)
<rapha> fair enough, we have gems :)
<adam12> Technically you can just upload and go too. I made a pure Rack URL shortener that had only rack as a dependency and ran with CGI. https://github.com/adam12/shorturl
<newton> might be a flawed take but php is designed for web, ruby isn't specifically designed for web
<rapha> oh cool, i'll check that out right away
<adam12> The only issue really has been the availability of Ruby on shared hosts.
<rapha> newton: no, thats a fair enough take. i do realize i have a bit of an oddball wish here.
<newton> adam12, that's cool 👀
<adam12> rapha: Using Dokku, you don't need Docker for dev. It's no different than Heroku, really.
<adam12> You git push, it uses the herokuish image, builds your app into a Docker image, and then deploys that image.
<rapha> <3'ing your config.ru, adam12 :)
<rapha> that's a _very_ cool app
<adam12> You can technically vender your bundler dependencies too. The only challenge is if they have native deps.
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<rapha> i think i'll try that out and by-heart the method
<adam12> bbiaf.
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<rapha> ... and for a fortnight will we be left wondering why he just left for a whole fortnight like that ....
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* newton flosses
* rapha solders
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