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<newton> deathadder, it's render(:edit, status: :unprocessable_entity), they are all symbols, :edit says to run the :edit action and status: :xyz is telling it what status code to respond with (422)
<newton> there's also #rubyonrails jsyk
<deathadder> ok
<deathadder> all this symbol stuff in Ruby is confusing me
<deathadder> Python doesn't have symbols does it?
<newton> python doesn't have symbols but there isn't a lot to internalize about it
<newton> there's a lot of places you could use symbols and strings interchangeably
<newton> at least in rails :^)
<deathadder> I learned expressjs today, but it seems to be a very light framework
<deathadder> only really offers routing and middleware
<deathadder> RoR seems very feature rich
<newton> yes, if you're looking for something like express you might look at roda or sinatra
<newton> rails is an entire mvc framework
<deathadder> Rails even offers it's own template language
<deathadder> erb
<adam12> deathadder: You can consider a Symbol to be a String that only exists in memory once. It's normally used for application data (vs a string that could come from somewhere outside of the app; user, db, whatever).
<deathadder> its*
<deathadder> ok, thanks adam12
<adam12> deathadder: Ie. You'd probably have a symbol named :username, but not likely a symbol named :deathadder.
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<adam12> ERB is Ruby (Embedded Ruby)
<deathadder> yes
<adam12> You can use it on Roda and Sinatra as well.
<deathadder> I have a little bit of experience with C# and ASP.NET
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<deathadder> but it's very different, the language is statically typed.
<deathadder> half the code is got to do with types
<adam12> Definitely. I've heard a lot of people enjoying C# and also enjoying Ruby.
<adam12> But it's a very different paradigm.
<adam12> bbl.
<deathadder> with dynamic languages you spent less time type wrangling, and more time getting stuff done
<deathadder> spend
<newton> if you do want to introduce the overhead of type wrangling into your dynamic ruby life look at sorbet.org 😏
<deathadder> It's like TypeScript for JS
<deathadder> but for Ruby
<deathadder> sounds painful
<deathadder> I had to switch from cmd.exe to powershell
<newton> no transpiling required but yeah it can be a trip
<deathadder> cmd.exe is so crap
<newton> install wsl and abandon both
<deathadder> powershell is ok
<deathadder> it's kind of annoying that it uses backslashes
<deathadder> I'm used to unix with forward slashes. luckily it corrects the slashes
<deathadder> when I installed rails I had to screw around with config files
<deathadder> it didn't like one of the gems
<deathadder> on windows*
<deathadder> tzinfo
<deathadder> rails is really cool it has a lot of macros for boilerplate code
<deathadder> it even creates CRUD macros
<deathadder> resources
<deathadder> in the routes.rb you can just say resources and it creates all the routes for you
<weaksauce> haml is kinda annoyin
<weaksauce> g
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<ox1eef> another notable feature of symbols is that they are immutable.
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<rapha> hmm i always thought it intuitive, weaksauce
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<nebiros> how can I add documentation for a @return [Hash]?, I want to describe the keys of the hash
<nebiros> I was thinking to use yard instead of rdoc in a rails app, or maybe not?
<adam12> nebiros: I think it's @return Hash<KeyType, ValueType>
<adam12> ie. Hash<String, Object> or something.
<adam12> I bounce between rdoc, yard, and tomdoc. I actually dislike all 3 in some way. I think we could do better, somehow.
<nebiros> adam12: ++
<nebiros> adam12: guess yardoc is more "feature rich"?
<adam12> nebiros: Definitely, but it is maintained mostly by one guy and didn't receive any adoption from core.
<adam12> nebiros: rdoc is obviously core, but I feel has very little forward movement. Most of the original authors have left, and I am not sure anybody is willing to push it forward. But I am unsure a new library would be adopted or blessed by core.
<adam12> I have some thoughts on how to improve this, but I havent' sat down and looked. But rdoc with improvements would likely be where I focused.
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<havenwood> nebiros: Just an aside, but you could also add RBS to describe the type: def nebiros: -> Hash[Symbol, String]
<havenwood> Funny that RDoc is the standard that ships with Ruby and so many folk use Yard. Reminds me of Minitest shipping with Ruby and so many folk using RSpec. Folk like fancy.
<havenwood> RBS, typeprof and steep are nifty, just need to mature.
<havenwood> Type and tests serve somewhat as executable docs. I kinda like how Elixir supports tests in docs.
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<nebiros> havenwood: got it
<nebiros> guess rust also has tests in the examples
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<nebiros> rubymine doesn't support Hash[Symbol, String] seems like
<nebiros> *sigh*
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<havenwood> nebiros: RubyMine does have RBS support. I know since I connected them with the author. :)
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<nebiros> havenwood: thanks
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<ox1eef> the type signatures in yard can be whatever. still, Hash<String, String> is common. I've been using Object<Foo, Bar> to indicate an instance of Object extended by Foo and Bar.
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