#ruby on 2022-01-10 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:38 <adam12> weaksauce: Probably nothing at this point. I wonder if Rubocop will adopt something like https://github.com/kddnewton/syntax_tree eventually.

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00:50 <weaksauce> adam12 do you know of anything faster?

00:51 <weaksauce> i guess for just formatting

00:51 <weaksauce> s/formatting/autoformatting

00:51 <adam12> weaksauce: I don't use any formatters for ruby. Just IDE hints running via standardrb. The _only_ auto formatter I've never hated is gofmt. So I've never really bothered to look at anything else.

00:52 <weaksauce> I've always liked having a thing to at least fixup indentation levels

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00:53 <adam12> Maybe try syntax_tree? I don't know how it will conflict with standardrb tho.

00:54 <weaksauce> yeah i'll give that a go

00:54 <weaksauce> though it's still pretty early in the dev for that

00:55 <adam12> Yeah.

00:55 <adam12> I actually just tried it on a small file, and it was fine _but_ it split an assignment and re-indented the entire block. I guess it would be OK if I was always running it, but it seems like a strange adjustment.

00:55 <adam12> Original line length was only 21 characters, so no need to split it really.

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11:52 <rapha> morning all

11:52 <adam12> rapha: morning!

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11:53 <rapha> had a good weekend adam?

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11:55 <adam12> rapha: Not too bad. HBU?

12:08 <rapha> hmm, quite nice actually. saturday was quiet and i was able to finally finish playing through Subnautica (which is an amazing game) and sunday was spent mostly at my bff's house with him and his wife and their three kids, which was a welcome distraction from my own life.

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12:18 <adam12> rapha: nice :)

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16:23 <cahoots> hi, i want to write code like, "my_var = other_var || { stmt1 ; stmt2 ; return_value }", so that if other_var is nil, my_var is set to return_value. this is nice since you can split the block up on multiple lines, and is something they do in rust. can it be done in ruby?

16:26 <leftylink> that can be done if the braces are instead either 1. parenthese or 2. a `begin` `end` pair

16:26 <leftylink> s/parenthese/parentheses/

16:27 <cahoots> leftylink, ty

16:29 <adam12> I'd probably begin/end.

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17:39 <prinnydood> hi folks. is anyone here familiar with the logger gem? i'm wondering if it's possible to exclude certain logs from being shipped to kibana on our aws account, so that we don't hit a limitation on the number of fields.

17:39 <prinnydood> for example, maybe by regex filters

17:42 <adam12> prinnydood: This one? https://rubygems.org/gems/logger

17:42 <prinnydood> adam12, yessir

17:43 <adam12> prinnydood: No specific experience, but maybe you could make your own formatter?

17:43 <adam12> Rather, I use logger everywhere, but no experience with your specific request.

17:44 <adam12> class KibanaFormatter < Formatter; def call(severity, time, progname, msg); super unless msg.match?(/do-not-log/); end; end;

17:45 <prinnydood> is that a filter for the logger gem?

17:45 <adam12> prinnydood: The logger gem accepts a custom Formatter. In this case, you inherit from Logger::Formatter, overwrite the callback to only execute the original block if the message doesn't match that regex.

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17:47 <adam12> Then pass it when you create the logger. Logger.new($stdout, formatter: KibanaFormatter.new)

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17:48 <prinnydood> ty adam12, i think this might be it. will try it out and report back

17:49 <adam12> prinnydood: Cool :)

17:49 <adam12> prinnydood: If it works, I'd extract the regexp to a constant, and save some CPU/memory churn.

17:50 <adam12> msg.match?(IGNORE_REGEXP)

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18:45 <mooff> does it support jndi?

18:48 <adam12> lol

18:49 <mooff> i wish there was more interest in a Module#uninclude .. i've been working on a bot library where features are implemented in modules, and including them activates the feature. trouble is, there's no way to remove them at runtime :/

18:53 <mooff> rather than "CoolBot.include FeatureOne, FeatureTwo", i could offer e.g. "CoolBot.activate FeatureOne, FeatureTwo", which would put them into an array on the class instance

18:53 <mooff> then when running hooks, have a bot instance dup itself, and extend the duplicate with all the modules from the list, run hooks, discard

18:54 <mooff> but it feels like a hack when the built-in module functionality aaaalmost gets us there

18:54 <mooff> any thoughts? :)

18:54 <leftylink> oh yeah I remember when Cinch had to do a weird thing to support that... what they did was https://github.com/dominikh/Mathetes/blob/cinch_rewrite/lib/cinch/plugins/plugin_management.rb#L40-L74

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18:57 <mooff> eek yeah!

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19:10 <adam12> Redefine CoolBot.include for fun and good times..

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20:25 <DenKn> I get an serror: .../2.7.0/resolv.rb:803:in `send': Required key not available - sendto(2) for "ff02::fb" port 5353 (Errno::ENOKEY) This happened, if I run middleman server. I've an wireguard-interface, which disallow ff02::fb.

20:34 <adam12> DenKn: Strange. Is that address listed in /etc/resolv.conf?

20:34 <DenKn> in resolv.conf? You mean /etc/hosts?

20:35 <adam12> DenKn: What OS?

20:35 <DenKn> nixos

20:35 <DenKn> I do not know, if it also happened with ubuntu/debian.

20:35 <DenKn> Btw, if the wireguard-interface is not available, it will not happen.

20:36 <adam12> Well, I'm not sure where that address/port combo came frome. It's kind of strange.

20:36 <adam12> I wonder if wireguard can push dns servers? Maybe it's pushing dns records for that address.

20:38 <DenKn> In my case one DNS-Server provided by an IP behind the wg-interface is used for some domains, but [ff02::fb]:5353 is not DNS, it is mDNS

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20:39 <DenKn> I had to allow ff02::fb on the other side to prevent this error by network. But, I would say, this would be a ruby-error. ENOKEY should be rescued and no answer returned.

20:41 <adam12> I didn't realize mDNS had an unprivileged port. Interesting.

20:41 <adam12> DenKn: Might be worth a bug report. bugs.ruby-lang.org. I'm not sure what else to suggest.

20:42 <DenKn> Why ruby tries it instead of using nss?

20:43 <DenKn> Wow, this would be my first bugreport after 20 years.

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22:11 <Aylat> Hello folks, i'm switching to Ruby and wanna know if there's some cheatsheet or great webpage to learn the best practices of this language

22:12 <Aylat> i've seen a quite few on top of google results, but they were... too little info, only talking about using "until" instead of while

22:20 <weaksauce> Aylat book route i'd go with eloquent ruby

22:21 <weaksauce> online route the odin project looks useful

22:22 <Aylat> I'll check that book so, thanks!

22:22 <LACampbe1> I quite liked 'Practical Object Oriented Design'. though arguably it's not a ruby book, it's an OOD book that happens to use ruby

22:22 <Aylat> I'm just switching from python, and all my code seems pythonic

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22:22 <Aylat> i just wanna learn some tips and best practices

22:23 <LACampbell> example of pythonic ruby code?

22:23 <legit> +1 for Eloquent Ruby

22:23 <legit> It's a bit dated, but it's still awesome!

22:23 <Aylat> i've seen before things like adding "!" to methods like uppercase

22:23 <Aylat> and i loved it

22:24 <weaksauce> ? is for boolean questions

22:24 <weaksauce> ! is for "dangerous" things

22:24 <weaksauce> stuff that might throw an error or change an object in place

22:24 <Aylat> well, LACampbell, i dont know, just writed my first real good script on ruby and seems pretty similar to python

22:25 <Aylat> oh, nice weaksauce, see, things like that (or tips) is what i'm searching for

22:25 <weaksauce> eloquent ruby is your best friend then... it teaches idiomatic ruby

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22:25 <weaksauce> and it's slightly out of date but nothing fundamentally has really changed in there

22:26 <Aylat> i'm tired of looking for ruby tips and finding thing like "ruby is awesome because you can ommit the parentheiss", yeah, that's great but not a game breaker

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22:26 <Aylat> eloquent ruby seems a perfect match for my questioj

22:27 <LACampbell> yeah ruby copied that from scheme

22:43 <havenwood> Aylat: For book, I'd highly recommend Polished Ruby Programming by Jeremy Evans. https://www.amazon.com/Polished-Ruby-Programming-maintainable-high-performance-ebook/dp/B093TH9P7C

22:43 <havenwood> It's a newer one, but best.

22:44 <Aylat> i'll take a look so

22:46 <havenwood> Aylat: https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/ruby/

22:46 <havenwood> Aylat: What language are you coming from?

22:46 <havenwood> Aylat: Here's the style guide that corresponds to the Rubocop linting tool. https://rubystyle.guide/

22:47 <havenwood> It's the closest we have to a `ruby format` command.

22:47 <havenwood> rubocop -A

22:47 <havenwood> gem install rubocop

22:47 <havenwood> Most text editors have an integration option.

22:48 <Aylat> Coming from php and python

22:49 <Aylat> i'm reading your webpages, seems awesome

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22:51 <Aylat> that learnxinyminute is awesome

22:52 <Aylat> postfix-if notation seems neat

22:59 <havenwood> Aylat: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ruby-from-other-languages/to-ruby-from-python/

22:59 <havenwood> Aylat: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ruby-from-other-languages/to-ruby-from-php/

22:59 <Aylat> yeah i've readed that, but it's pretty basic

22:59 <havenwood> Those highlight a few differences between Ruby and PHP/Python. True, basic.

23:00 <havenwood> There's a lot of similarity.

23:01 <havenwood> I'd normally recommend zenspider's quick ref, but seems offline.

23:01 <havenwood> Aylat: You might like: https://rubyapi.org/

23:06 <Aylat> thanks a lot for all the resources

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23:10 <Aylat> Good night folks, and thanks for all the tips

23:11 <weaksauce> that polished ruby looks really good

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23:58 <adam12> weaksauce: It's good, but I wish Jeremy ended up with someone else than Pakt. I think they have the weakest editors of all the tech publishers.

23:58 <weaksauce> is it just ebook?

23:58 <adam12> I have the ebook because I was given an early review copy, but there are physical copies out there.

23:59 <weaksauce> ah nice