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<vtbsub> hello, so, while reading the chapter about symbols in the docs, I was wondering what happen if you (define 'symbol ...)
<vtbsub> my guess was, it would be an invalid and spit out an error
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<vtbsub> so, I tried (define 'a 10) in the REPL
<vtbsub> but it success
<vtbsub> But I don't know what that line actually doing
<vtbsub> typing 'a just gives an error that a: undefined
<vtbsub> Which is weird. I can't also do other stuff like 'something etc.
<vtbsub> Anyone can tell me what is actually happened here?
<vtbsub> did I just redefine (quote ...) procedure?
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<samth> vtbsub: yes, you redefined `quote`
<samth> that is, what you wrote is the same as (define (quote a) 10)
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<vtbsub> samth, thanks, that explains it
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<bremner> does anyone happen to know the equivalent of the make target "no-run" in the new build system? honestly I don't remember exactly why I used no-run, probably something about trying to control when/where the docs are built
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<samth> bremner: it looks like it didn't do anything?
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<bremner> samth: ah, thanks
<bremner> I probably still want to do nothing there, but I can hopefully figure out how
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<bremner> ugh, I think I might have to remove the srfi docs from the debian source package, since they are not really source.
<bremner> can people just install them with "raco pkg install srfi" ?
<bremner> I guess I can try that...
<samth> bremner: wait how are they not source?
<samth> HTML is a source code format
<bremner> samth: they say "Please do not edit these files, go to this github repo and edit there"
<bremner> I agree, it's a bit borderline.
<bremner> it's like generate C. It's a source format, but it's not really editable.
<winny> debian guidelines discourage intermediate sources as source packages?
<bremner> yes
<samth> bremner: but it isn't generated!
<bremner> samth: it says it is generated in the file?
<winny> never had the pleasure to package for debian, so this is surprising to me
<samth> the upstream file is just the same HTML with slight edits
<bremner> ok
<bremner> probably best to just ignore it then.
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<samth> bremner: the various transformations are discussed in comments https://github.com/racket/srfi/blob/master/srfi-sync.rkt; they're things like adjusting the link for favicons and writing <br> as <br />
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<bremner> samth: thanks.
<samth> bremner: you could also package something that runs srfi-sync first, but that requires the internet
<bremner> right. which isn't allowed for our autobuilders
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