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<mikko> does anything like "live preview" exist for racket web applications (web-server/http/xexpr)?
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<mikko> eg. when i make any changes to the file the browser would automatically refresh the page i have open
<samth> mikko: no, I don't think anything like that exists
<mikko> i guess i'll build my own then
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<winny> there's some existing work out there to do live reloads of racket code... lemme find what i saw
<bremner> it's a bit of an uphill battle iiuc?
<winny> think so :s
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<leah2> hm, can i install 8.5/8.6 without building docs?
<winny> here's a contrived example of diy'ing a hot reloadable system (it doesn't support hot reloads, but shows how you'd use the primitives) https://github.com/winny-/adjutant/tree/master/core/plugin
<samth> it depends what you want; if you want reloading of Racket code then it's non-trivial (but see that project which does most of the work), if you want what you usually get in other systems, where you have a separate template that's not Racket code then it would be eaiser
<winny> leah2: you could try a racket-minimal installation. Some distros ship it. you might end up pulling in docs when installing packages... but worth a shot
<leah2> well there used to be a --disable-docs flag but i think nothing uses it
<winny> some packages are split out into multiple ones such as -lib -doc -tests. if you see packages that are -lib, those usually omit docs
<winny> I think there's another technique to avoid docs when installing packages, something about build deps or --no-docs, but i honestly don't understand it
<winny> if you run into a roadblock, please feel empowered to open a ticket with the package maintainer, they probably aren't aware users wish to use the package on a small footprint
<leah2> but winny i'm the package maintainer ;)
<winny> dang, that's a tough one :p
<bremner> write yourself an angry email :)
<leah2> ah, but maybe i found the reason why it doesnt work
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<samth> leah2: you can certainly install the minimal 8.5, and you can then install packages using `raco pkg install -D` and that won't build any docs
<leah2> how do i install a minimal? i just run "make install" and it builds redex-doc etc
<leah2> is that a different tarball?
<winny> might have to reach out later about the raco pkg install -D thing. haven't figured that out on my own packages yet :s
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<samth> leah2: yes it's a different tarball
<samth> leah2: eg go here: https://download.racket-lang.org/releases/8.6/ and you have entries for "Minimal Racket"
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<leah2> wish i had a better idea how to track down why certain graphics things fail when cross-compiling
<samth> leah2: which things? how do they fail?
<leah2> stuff like this https://l2.re/SFSAAZ
<leah2> most fail during docs, a few outside
<leah2> on a native build it just works
<leah2> but it should use the host racket do build these things, so why is it different
<samth> that seems like a bug
<samth> so you should report it
<samth> if you haven't already
<leah2> i did some time ag
* leah2 adds more fonts
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<samth> leah2: did you take a look at the slack thread linked there?
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<samth> leah2: i think the answer is you have to have the fonts now because of gtk/pango changes
<leah2> yeah, checking right now if this fixes it
<leah2> unfortunately raco setup is dog slow :<
<leah2> i dont see errors so far tho
<samth> raco setup isn't really at fault; it's just running the relevant racket code
<leah2> yay past me for figuring this out already :p
<leah2> single threaded it seems :p
<samth> leah2: raco setup is not single-threaded if that's what you mean
<leah2> yeah but it's not cpu bound somehow
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<samth> if you mean that it isn't always lighting up all your cpus that's certainly true, usually because traversing the module graph doesn't provide enough parallelism
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