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<arigato>
(just to finish my rant against PEP 683 "Immortal Objects, Using a Fixed Refcount": one section is all about saying "yes, there are theoretical crashes that could be possible, but they all look extremely unlikely in practice". The very next section is "Security implications": "This feature has no known impact on security". Surely I'm not the only one who sees the problem here?)
<cfbolz>
arigato: thanks for writing well-thought-out replies on these CPy issues (not that I'm optimistic it'll change anything)