12:04 <arigo> a question I've got which I'm not sure how to answer:

12:04 <arigo> "Wondering what is python standard way to declare event subscription / unsubscription?"

12:05 <arigo> after I explained that in his pair of functions Connect(callable) and Disconnect(callable), he shouldn't use id(callable) as a key because e.g. "x.method is not x.method"

12:06 <arigo> I suggested instead Connect(callable) -> token, and Disconnect(token)

12:06 <arigo> but I admit I have no idea what is "standard" here

12:36 <cfbolz> arigo: I like your suggestion

12:36 <cfbolz> arigo: and I recall some other projects that use tokens for cancelation

12:38 <cfbolz> (seems I recall .NET for some reason??! https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.threading.cancellationtoken?view=net-6.0 )

12:56 <LarstiQ> cfbolz: from https://vorpus.org/blog/timeouts-and-cancellation-for-humans/ I think

13:37 <lazka> glib uses "token", but only because it mirrors the API from C, pyqt seems the use the callable

13:37 <lazka> a middle ground would be token.disconnect() I guess.

13:39 <lazka> javascript has a similar problem with multiple methods when you want to bind() it, then you have to keep the bound() method around to disconnect later

13:59 <ctismer> got a `NotImplementedError` on a numerical test. (following)

14:01 <ctismer> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/P7GJTnic/test

14:02 <ctismer> the code:

14:03 <ctismer> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Lnlrrgib/numerical_test.py

14:03 <ctismer> with the wrapped code of

14:04 <ctismer> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/fx9GVqJ4/functions.cpp

14:09 <ctismer> does someone need the wrapped code as well?

14:52 <ctismer> mattip, LarstiQ, cfbolz, arigo

15:09 <LarstiQ> I have nothing useful atm, I'd look at how OperationError is implemented I guess

15:15 <cfbolz> ctismer: at the Weihnachtsmarkt right now

15:52 <ctismer> Thanks, I’m on the run, too

20:08 <cfbolz> somebody wants to read my blog post draft?: https://deploy-preview-44--keen-mestorf-442210.netlify.app/posts/2021/12/error-message-style-guides.html

21:16 <mgorny> cfbolz: "In the following [...]" lacks a noun

21:17 <mgorny> also not 100% sure but i feel that "I found" should actually be "I have found"

21:17 <mgorny> (not a native English speaker)

21:19 <cfbolz> (nitpick: "the following" *is* a noun, but it's a Germanism and I'm fixing it anyway ;-) )

21:19 <mgorny> "80% of the time" -- you probably meant "times", otherwise it sounds like you're talking that one person spends 80% time on X, then 20% of time on Y

21:19 <mgorny> but not sure if it's entirely correct either

21:19 <cfbolz> right

21:19 <cfbolz> yeah, that paragraph is probably the most confusing one

21:20 <cfbolz> I found the 80/20 rule quite obvious in the style guides. but seems I have a hard time expressing it myself

21:22 <mgorny> besides that, neat smmary

21:22 <mgorny> summary*

21:22 <cfbolz> cool, thanks a lot for the feedback

21:34 <Guest96> reads good to me

21:34 <Guest96> as native english speaker

21:35 <cfbolz> andythenorth: thx :-)