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<arigato> mattip: Re debug builds: maybe we could distribute the full debug info as a separate download? Not sure what amount of extra work this would require
<arigato> (issue 3544)
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<cfbolz> pfff, sometimes our easy specialization is really a problem
<cfbolz> we have a whole extra useless copy of timsort to sort typeobject slot names
<cfbolz> ah, or maybe not
<cfbolz> maybe it's correctly reused in listobject.py
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<cfbolz> I'm confused
<cfbolz> can't unicode lists, ascii lists and bytes lists all use the same sorter?
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<LarstiQ> does the active language matter for the unicode sorting?
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<cfbolz> LarstiQ: not by default
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<mattip> in py3.8 I moved the include files into include/pypy3.8
<mattip> perhaps we should go all in and move lib-python/3 to <base>/lib/pypy3.8
<mattip> and site-packages to <base>/lib/pypy3.8/site-packages
<mattip> which would bring us into alignment with CPython
<mattip> then we wouldn't need customized INSTALL_SCHEMES
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<mgorny> mattip: yes, please
<mgorny> i'd really appreciate if i wouldn't have to patch nonstandard paths ;-)
<mgorny> (presumably base would be /usr?)
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<mattip> base is whatever "prefix" turns out to be
<mattip> in the scheme
<mattip> mgorny: we still need to patch out the "python" name, I am working to replace it with "sys.implementation.name" in distutils.sysconfig and sysconfig
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