<geri>
i have a little shell script for journaling something, it's 15 lines
<geri>
tried to rewrite it in a few schemes and its 40-45 lines on average
<geri>
34 in picolisp
<abu[7]>
Good :)
<geri>
kind of a bummer even the best option is 2x in source code lines
<geri>
at least i can now say for sure that i hate having separate boolean type in schemes, it makes code way uglier than cl an pil often
<geri>
s/ an /and/
<abu[7]>
Indeed
<abu[7]>
The generality of NIL in pil is very convenient
<geri>
cl has nil be the only false value and also an empty list, even though its not as radical as in pil, its very comfy
<geri>
stuff like (let ((x (when y "whatever"))) ...) becomes a thing; in schemes when returns some undefined/void value if it doesnt match te condition
<geri>
same as (let X (when Y ...) ...) in pil
<geri>
(so many less parens!)
<abu[7]>
I see
<geri>
why does (match '(@Year @Month @Day) (date (date))) set all @ values to be lists of one element instead of just the element?
<abu[7]>
T, it would need an extended pattern syntax
<geri>
so basically to be simpler in some way?
<abu[7]>
'match' would be less simple
<geri>
so i gotta explicitly set @ values to be their car?
<geri>
(if i know its 1 element per thingie)
<abu[7]>
Right
<abu[7]>
How about using destructuring 'let'?
<geri>
wait it could do that?
<geri>
xd
<geri>
i sense a deja vu
<abu[7]>
It binds to single values
<geri>
okay amazing
<geri>
that's indeed what i need
<abu[7]>
Great :)
<geri>
also the fact that `case' just works without any need to specify keys or get a library to work with strings is very neta
<geri>
neat*
<abu[7]>
Is 'case' so restricted is Scheme?
<geri>
in both scheme and cl case is only about matching symbols
<geri>
in cl you usually use alexandria:switch and give it a string= as test to do a case statement with strings
<abu[7]>
ok
<geri>
in scheme i dont even know what you're supposed to do other than maybe pattern matching
<geri>
found out something interesting - if you chop a string and then feed it to dirname, its gonna mutate the string youve passed
<geri>
which is pretty bizzare ngl
<abu[7]>
This is so for most funs which expect a string. Implicit pack.
<abu[7]>
You can pass a symbol, a number or a list
<geri>
implicit pack is fine
<geri>
im saying itll mutate the variable you pass it if its chopped
<geri>
i wrote the exact same thing but in slightly more characters
<geri>
:D
<geri>
is there something like "butlast" from cl?
<abu[7]>
👍😎
<geri>
its like last but the opposite way
<abu[7]>
Yes, via 'tail'
<abu[7]>
or (head -1 ...
<abu[7]>
not 'tail'
<geri>
oh they take negative numbers too, very cool
<abu[7]>
Very good that you found this bug :)
<geri>
)
<abu[7]>
I hope the new versions work for all combinations of slashes again
<geri>
they seem to so far
<abu[7]>
But it looks like
<abu[7]>
T
<abu[7]>
Great, I will release it
<geri>
🎉
<abu[7]>
> 11:45 <geri> how are your hands doing? -- No change, but I use my new keyboard instead of Penti, so I can write more relaxed (even while walking because I need only a single finger)
<tankf33der>
what if stack size and old pil version?
<abu[7]>
I thought that too. There was no stack error message in older versions
<abu[7]>
But this code uses only little stack
<abu[7]>
-> ((masterOut . 61)
<tankf33der>
so you run it
<abu[7]>
yes
<tankf33der>
ok
<abu[7]>
also with 000 added
<abu[7]>
Coroutines were buggy in prev versions
<tankf33der>
i've got no errors
<abu[7]>
Good
<tankf33der>
very fast, nothing special.
<tankf33der>
not 000, but one zero
<tankf33der>
both versions run 1sec
<abu[7]>
ok
<tankf33der>
ok
<tankf33der>
afk.
<abu[7]>
cu
<geri>
gotta go too, enjoy the evening
<abu[7]>
GooG night geri!
<abu[7]>
* Good ;)
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<fuxoft>
Hello, I seem to have problems with receiving picolisp mailing list emails. I've subscribed, I've sent the question, I see the reply to my question in the list webarchive, but I've received ZERO actual emails (not even the subscription confirmation). The emails are definitely not in my Spam folder and I don't even see them in incoming emails log (I
<fuxoft>
am using forwardemail.net).
<fuxoft>
Or are emails intentionally delayed, e.g. sent only once a day?
<abu[7]>
No, should arrive after a few minutes
<abu[7]>
You checked the spam folder I presume?
<fuxoft>
Yeah, I even checked the SMTP logs of forwardemail.net
<abu[7]>
strange
<fuxoft>
The emails are being received by forwardemail.net and forwarded to my GMail inbox. They never even arrive to forwardemail. Testing email from elsewhere arrived OK.
<abu[7]>
EMail is nasty :(
<abu[7]>
It was yo
<abu[7]>
oops
<abu[7]>
It was you asking about the coroutine?
<abu[7]>
BBL in one or two hours
<fuxoft>
Yes
<fuxoft>
It was me about the coroutine. Probably because I was using the older picolisp included in my Linux distro
<fuxoft>
But the email not working is the bigger problem :/
<fuxoft>
The crash happened in picolisp version (23 2 8)
<fuxoft>
The crash happened in picolisp version ( 23 2 8 )
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<abu[7]>
ret
<abu[7]>
As we said, coroutines improved a lot last yean (a lot due to tankf33der's testing), so it was a bug which is fixed meanwhile
<abu[7]>
s/yean/year
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