beneroth changed the topic of #picolisp to: PicoLisp language | The scalpel of software development | Channel Log: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/picolisp | Check www.picolisp.com for more information
clacke has joined #picolisp
<abu[m]> Simply replacing files does not work, you need also to sign the archive
<abu[m]> Better take the whole source from https://software-lab.de/PilBox.tgz and build it
<abu[m]> See the README in that tar ball
rob_w has joined #picolisp
rob_w has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
rob_w has joined #picolisp
clacke has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
rob_w has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<f8l> Thank you for keeping me going.
<abu[m]> Welcome ☺
razzy has joined #picolisp
<razzy> Regenaxer: Good day to everyone! Can vip acess remote files through SSH with combination go file "g" "f"? i will read later.
pfd has joined #picolisp
<razzy> hmm, i will mount remote SSH filesystem. thx
razzy has quit [Quit: leaving]
<abu[m]> Mounting is fine. But you can also directly edit a local copy:
<abu[m]> :$ssh <user>@<server> cat <file>
<abu[m]> ':' is command mode
<abu[m]> '$' opens a new Vip buffer
pfd97 has joined #picolisp
pfd97 has quit [Client Quit]
pfd23 has joined #picolisp
pfd23 has quit [Write error: Broken pipe]
pfd27 has joined #picolisp
pfd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
pfd27 has quit [Client Quit]
<abu[m]> PilCon soon!!
<abu[m]> OK, nobody intested. I wait another 5 min, then stop it
Regenaxer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
razzy has joined #picolisp
<razzy> abu[m]: i am interested :]
<abu[m]> Hi razzy! OK, so next time :)
<abu[m]> Let's meet on 10th next month, perhaps with Nehal and her little students then
<razzy> abu[m]: when i do not have email i confused time. i was thinking 18 UTC which is 20 local
<razzy> and it was 16 utc
<abu[m]> Oh, I see! Sorry!
<razzy> my mistake!
<abu[m]> No worry!
<razzy> i will miss pilcon
<abu[m]> Let's think how we can better organize it?
<abu[m]> E.g. have some more flexible scheduling
<abu[m]> Somehow decide on issues and themes, and a date people agree upon
<razzy> what about pool at each pilcon for next pilcon. about topic and time.
<abu[m]> On some public site?
<razzy> in jitsi.
<razzy> there is pool capability
<razzy> if i remember
<abu[m]> I thought some page where people can put issues for the next months, together with when they can attend
<abu[m]> How does pooling work in Jitsi?
<razzy> we tried and it worked.
<razzy> one of the topics could be free drinking and chat :]
<abu[m]> yeah ☺
<abu[m]> But how do you mean we tried it? Pooling?
<abu[m]> Simply come together?
<razzy> so we do not appear too much hardcore. free chat is nice
<razzy> abu[m]: jitsi can count votes
<abu[m]> ok
<abu[m]> But people must attend first, no?
<razzy> yes
<abu[m]> or does it work asynchronously?
<abu[m]> ok
<razzy> abu[m]: well, backdoor are worst. :]
<abu[m]> But I think easily detected in a small system like PicoLisp
<razzy> more easily than in other systems :]
<abu[m]> I believe it is impossible
<abu[m]> What should the backdoor do? Read some files and send them via the network?
<abu[m]> PicoLisp base system has no network
<abu[m]> So only if @lib/net.l is loaded
<abu[m]> Just (trace 'connect) or call 'strace'
<razzy> abu[m]: backdoor should read conditions(date, frequency of ussage, etc) than execute something send data somewhere. allow connection to web server.
<abu[m]> So this needs a whole program, but Pil is just a language
<abu[m]> If you put such things into it, you_l see immediately in the source
<razzy> language cannot execute itself?
<abu[m]> yes, but such code must be there
<abu[m]> The language itself has no networking functions
<razzy> can it be obfuscated? written in binnary os ascii?
<razzy> sorry hex?
<abu[m]> There is no hex
<razzy> no binnary?
<abu[m]> PicoLisp soure is 14030 lines. Not to much to read
<abu[m]> src/*.l
<abu[m]> There is zero binary
<abu[m]> But there are the character tables
<abu[m]> lookup tables
<razzy> nice :]
<abu[m]> Grepping for them shows that they are only looked up
<abu[m]> And they are only UTF-8 characters
<razzy> abu[m]: thank you :] again. i am sorry for asking too many questions.
<abu[m]> No problem! ☺
<abu[m]> The character tables are in src/lib.c btw
<abu[m]> The only "hex" data in the source I think
<razzy> i will look sometimes :]
<razzy> it is still better than other systems.
<razzy> i think by several orders of magnitude.
razzy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
razzy has joined #picolisp
<razzy> good night to all i wish! :]
<abu[m]> Yeah, good night!
razzy has quit [Client Quit]
chexum has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
chexum has joined #picolisp
theruran has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]