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<Ermine> Intel model naming is confusing >_<
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<Ermine> what's the difference between, let's say, core i5 and core 5
<nikolar> core 5 is newer
<nikolar> Because they removed the i at some point
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<Ermine> seems like it's the latest gen, because my raptor lake has 'i'
<nikolar> Yeah exactly
<nikolar> And they switched to 3 digit model numbers too
<nikolar> Instead of 4
<nikolar> For some reason
<zid> they used to be 3
<zid> sometimes
* zid stares at nikolar's laptop
<nikolar> Sometimes!
<zid> 486 baby
<Ermine> that's basically one digit
<Ermine> 86 is a brand at this point
<nikolar> zid: that's just a nickname for 80486
<heat> intel i7-8086k goated
<nikolar> Did that actually exist
<heat> yes
<bslsk05> ​www.intel.com: Access Denied
<nikolar> Cute
<zid> I like the 8086k a bit
<zid> it's a sandy bridge but without the pci-e lanes
<zid> and 200MHz more
<zid> and only 2 channels
<zid> and no ecc
<zid> other than that, pretty good
<zid> first get i series was legit 3 digit btw
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<zid> i5-640
<zid> 650
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<nikolar> Didn't last long though
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<geist> oh yah the 8086k. it was basically a limited edition run of whatever was the thing at the time with 200mhz more clock
<geist> was not really worth it except as a collector thing
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<Ermine> is it kaby lake
<Ermine> no, kaby lake is 7xxx, so it's probably coffee lake
<geist> something like that yeah there was nothing particularly special about it, just a high binned version sold as collectors edition
<geist> i wonder how many people never unboxed it
<nikolar> Check on ebay!
<heat> Ermine: i have an 8th gen KBL
<heat> 8th gen was a mix of various uarchs
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<geist> yeah i remember them starting to do that then which i think they hadn't done much before
<geist> they were starting to slip i think about then, new µarches werne't coming out on time, but they wanted to keep the numbers counting
<zid> It was unlocked without being an X
<zid> which was somewhat special
<nikolar> Didn't k mean unlocked
<zid> nope
<zid> it *mostly* meant that
<zid> But not always (sometimes the max multi was just set really high, oddly) and not all unlocked chips had K
<zid> I think they just swapped X to K after a while?
<zid> but laptops got HX instead? intel weird as usual
<zid> lynnfield had one K, bloomfield had two X, lol
<zid> clarkdark one 1, gulftown two X. Tick tock baby?
<heat> intel loves picking goofy uarch names
<zid> For some reason the sandy bridge EP chips were randomly unlocked or not with no letters anywhere
<zid> I think possibly because they were all based on the 38xx and 39xxs
<geist> i thknk EP were just their own series and implied that sort of thing
<zid> They didn't do the same on the haswell/ivy/etc chips from then on though
<zid> as far as I know
<zid> I think it was just a slipup because it was the first time they were doing i series stuff
<zid> efuses for ecc but not for multi
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<nikolar> zid: did they change how they handle overclocking since amd unlocked basically all of their cpus
<zid> no idea I don't like modern intels
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<nikolar> Kek fair enough
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<geist> same
<geist> i've been mostly team amd in my purchase habits since zen 1
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<nikolar> AMD AMD AMD
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<zid> CYRIX
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<nikolar> zid: ever had a cyrix cpu
<GeDaMo> I did, back in the 90s
<nikolar> Neat
<GeDaMo> I'm guessing it was one of these, I don't remember https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrix_6x86
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