02:17 <rue_mohr> hey

02:17 <rue_mohr> I have a patch I did to an old version of openscad that added featuers I'd like in the new version

02:17 <rue_mohr> but, I'd like to not have to carry them forward each version

02:18 <rue_mohr> who do I talk to about having it added to the main rep?

02:18 <ndnihil> what sort of features?

02:20 <rue_mohr> its an edtra menu, "Insert" and contains "rotation", "translation", "scale" it inserts a template for each, aka ctrl-I, t -> translate([0,0,0]) with the cursor left on the X

02:20 <rue_mohr> I'm really missing it after my debian upgrade

02:21 <rue_mohr> I dont know how much work it'll be to carry it to the new vesion

02:21 <ndnihil> you use the built in editor?

02:21 <rue_mohr> yes

02:21 <rue_mohr> wait... I'm I the only one using the built in editor?

02:21 <ndnihil> possibly

02:21 <rue_mohr> well damnit

02:21 <ndnihil> vim is what all the cool kids are using

02:22 <rue_mohr> I'm a nedit fan

02:22 <ndnihil> fun fact, you can use any external editor

02:22 <rue_mohr> esp after using it for 20 years and learning the whole time it had rectangular select

02:22 <ndnihil> even emacs, if you really have some sort of self-loathing thing going on

02:22 <rue_mohr> indeed

02:22 <rue_mohr> didn't they all wear out their alt keys?

02:23 <ndnihil> probably too busy sniffing their own farts to wear out any keys

02:23 <rue_mohr> so, how do you do that without having to reload all the time?

02:24 <rue_mohr> f4 instead of f5?

02:24 <ndnihil> you enable the autoreload on file write option in settings

02:25 <rue_mohr> what, I dont see it

02:25 <rue_mohr> under editor?

02:26 <rue_mohr> your meant preferences, right?

02:26 <ndnihil> trying to find it

02:27 <rue_mohr> your just teasing me...

02:27 <ndnihil> design->automatic reload and preview

02:27 <ndnihil> first option

02:27 <rue_mohr> ah I was just gonna say

02:27 <rue_mohr> hmmm, but then I'm switching windows all the time

02:27 <rue_mohr> I have to think about this

02:28 <ndnihil> why?

02:28 <rue_mohr> edit -> preview -> edit ->preview

02:28 <ndnihil> it's automagic

02:28 <ndnihil> :w

02:28 <ndnihil> and it reloads itself

02:28 <rue_mohr> what

02:28 <rue_mohr> you mean when I save the file it'll auto preview?

02:28 <ndnihil> yup

02:29 <rue_mohr> ....

02:29 <ndnihil> I know right?

02:29 <rue_mohr> I think I better try this for a while then....

02:29 <ndnihil> and there's a syntax highlighting plugin for vim

02:30 <ndnihil> just saying

02:30 <rue_mohr> so, just to be clear, so many devs didn't like the editor that they put a full feature set in to avoid using it?

02:30 <ndnihil> being a programatic environment, you're going to attract a sort of user who has particular preferences in editor

02:31 <ndnihil> the built-in is great for getting started and whatnot

02:31 <ndnihil> but once you sink your teeth into it, you'll eventually want your editing happy place

02:31 <rue_mohr> huh, I suppose that makes sense

02:32 <rue_mohr> huh

02:32 <rue_mohr> that works nicely

02:32 <ndnihil> it's the goodness

02:33 <rue_mohr> ok, well, thanks...

02:33 <ndnihil> no problem

02:33 <rue_mohr> tho I'll have you know I'll feel a void where there would have been hours and hours of extracting code changes and porting them to a few version

02:34 <ndnihil> you can fill that void with new and interesting ways to create geometry in three dimensional space

02:34 <rue_mohr> ;)

02:34 <ndnihil> more making the stuff, less making the making of the stuff a time filler

02:35 <rue_mohr> I use librecad to create 2d profiles and extrude them in openscad

02:35 <rue_mohr> took me, 5 mins? to design the clips for my new light

02:35 <ndnihil> if I need something complicated I'll do it in inkscape and import for extrusion

02:36 <rue_mohr> all happily sent to a machine which is probably making me a pile of spagetti in the livingroom

02:36 <ndnihil> but most of the stuff I do is straight scad

02:36 <rue_mohr> yea, I find the dimenstions come out better from librecad

02:36 <rue_mohr> and omg slow csg

02:36 <rue_mohr> extruding profiles avoids it wonderfully

02:36 <ndnihil> yup

02:37 <ndnihil> I have a pair of 2070supers sitting here just begging to be abused by openscad

02:37 <rue_mohr> hah, no threads yet tho

02:37 <ndnihil> and my poor cpu

02:37 <ndnihil> but at least it's just the one thread

03:02 <InPhase> rue_mohr: If you think your templates are broadly valuable for others, you just pop a pull request up on github for it to get them evaluated for integration. Although the template files are also settable at the user level, so you should be able to just keep your config directory backed up and copy them around to where you want them, even if they are suitable only for you.

03:03 <InPhase> rue_mohr: For example, I have a template containing a copyright notice with my name in it. :)

03:08 <rue_mohr> this just puts in the command

03:09 <rue_mohr> so, when you want to rotate something you dont have to type the whole rotate([0,0,0]) thing

03:09 <rue_mohr> just change the numbers to what you want

19:04 <gbruno> [github] dannypike opened issue #3905 (Clear console on every build). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/3905

20:25 <gbruno> [github] t-paul closed issue #3898 (Preview showing different result when looking from z<0 and z>0). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/3898