05:30 <adrien> TLS cert for opam.ocaml.org expired it seems

06:14 <discocaml> <sim642> Seems fine to me

06:25 <olle> Hm are there any examples of deep embedding pattern that's not an academic paper? xD

07:14 <discocaml> <Commutative Conjecture> when creating some utils in OCaml supposed to be integrated to a bigger product project, would you recommend 4.14.1 or 5.0.0?

07:46 <discocaml> <Commutative Conjecture> and by any chance, does anyone have a tutorial on incremental _lexing_? Like, lexing where if I interrupt it in the middle of the lexing of a string literal, it doesn't fail?

07:46 <discocaml> <Commutative Conjecture> tutorial or example

07:48 <discocaml> <sarna> is there any convention about `MyModule.create` and `MyModule.make`? there's `Array.make`, `String.make` and `Bytes.make`, but there's also `Bytes.create`, `Buffer.create`..

07:49 <discocaml> <sarna> I guess `.create` tends to be used for creating uninitialized (empty) values?

08:11 <discocaml> <darrenldl> @sarna my conclusion last time on said question was "not really, no, there's not much convention"

08:11 <discocaml> <darrenldl>

08:11 <discocaml> <darrenldl> JS libs seems to use create a lot, other places seem to use make a fair bit, stdlib mutable data structures like to use create here and there (e.g. Hashtbl), but then also Array.make as you suggested

08:12 <discocaml> <darrenldl> i end up asking for convention too often, only to end up witnessing none

08:12 <discocaml> <sarna> ah, I see - I'll stick to `make` then, it's shorter and easier to type :)

08:12 <discocaml> <darrenldl> yeah i just use make in all my libs

08:12 <discocaml> <sarna> hah, yeah that's unfortunate. I like conventions, they make me waste less time on silly things..

08:13 <discocaml> <darrenldl> you tell me. i spent a day some time ago on whether it should be "time zone" and `Time_zone` or "timezone" and `Timezone`

08:14 <discocaml> <darrenldl> and similar things with hyphen (today was on multicore vs multi-core)

11:57 <companion_cube> Isn't it make if you provide a filler element, create otherwise?

14:12 <discocaml> <darrenldl> oh yeah maybe actually

14:13 <discocaml> <darrenldl> ive given up though

15:15 <discocaml> <smondet> @Commutative Conjecture I recently had to downgrade a little project from 5.0.0 to 4.14.1 when I realized I needed it to build on Windows 😉 So that's a data-point.

20:13 <discocaml> <Commutative Conjecture> thx

22:36 <discocaml> <froyo> could people chime in on this? https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/syntax-sugar-for-records-behind-constructors/12073