<diejuse>
OK. I'll investigate too. Another subject. Is there a way to get the virtual keyboard in a non-Maemo application? For example in the "mousepad" text editor.
<Wizzup>
there is a way to raise it regardless of the application
<Wizzup>
on various maemo devices we have a key that raises the keyboard
<diejuse>
perfect. How?
<Wizzup>
in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/shortcuts.ini you can set assign a key to raise the keyboard
<Wizzup>
like:
<Wizzup>
[Shortcuts]
<Wizzup>
RaiseVkb=XF86Search
<diejuse>
Do you know what code corresponds to any volume key?
<Wizzup>
XF86RaiseVolume I think is for vol up
<Wizzup>
and XF86LowerVolume
<diejuse>
I'll try it when I get the normal keyboard back. I have updated before from Beowulf to Chimaera and I have lost the virtual keyboard. It is normal?
<Wizzup>
do you mean that you did apt-get dist-upgrade?
<diejuse>
yes
<Wizzup>
it should not happen, but your setup is perhaps a bit more niche
<diejuse>
Maybe it will work if I reinstall hildon-input-method
<Wizzup>
dbus is key again here
<diejuse>
But it's already working. The rest of the things do work.
<Wizzup>
maybe manually start hildon-input-method and see
<Wizzup>
(if there are any errors)
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<diejuse>
Wow, the keyboard appeared when I pressed volume+ (the code was XF86AudioRaiseVolume). Great!
<Wizzup>
note that this force-raise keyboard is not as featureful as the regular virtual keyboard, which is context aware
<Wizzup>
(lets you line edit)
<Wizzup>
uvos: ok, I made a voicecall-manager xsession script, rebooted my d4 and calls work on boot with voicecall-manager and sphone with that module
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<diejuse>
Is there a way to edit the virtual keyboard keys? The enter key does not give me the line break (/n) and I cannot execute.
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<Wizzup>
diejuse: hm, what are you seeing that is being sent?
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<diejuse>
When I press the enter key, ithe keyboard exits tand sends what I have typed but does not do a line break.
<diejuse>
For example, in LXTerminal I put "ls" and want to send it but it just writes "ls" without sending it.
<Wizzup>
mhm
<Wizzup>
and you don't get the maemo keyboard in osso-xterm?
<Wizzup>
I just realised that maemo might detect that you have a keyboard attached and that it cannot be 'slide in'
<Wizzup>
in this case the virtual keyboard won't come up
<Wizzup>
(is this the case?)
<diejuse>
I don't have a physical keyboard with this smartphone. Furthermore, it did not happen with Beowulf.
<diejuse>
Anyway, in my last question I meant that I want to be able to do a line break at any time. That is, differentiate sending from a line break, regardless of the context.
<diejuse>
* differentiate between send and a line break, regardless of the context.
<Wizzup>
right, there is a way to edit the keys but I don't know on top of my head - it'll be similar to how it used to work in maemo
<Wizzup>
I need to get some rest first though :)
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<diejuse>
It would be nice to be able to edit the keyboard and add some keys (arrow keys for example)
<diejuse>
Ok, it's true, it's late.
<Wizzup>
this reminds me
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: currently on the droid 4 keyboard I can't type any numbers in the phone number field in abook, I think this is because it doesn't understand that the drid 4 keyboard is different
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: maybe we should make a ticket for it if not already
<diejuse>
I think it is very important that a user can add their own keys. Especially smartphones without a keyboard. With a file in xml format for example.
<diejuse>
*withot physical keyboard
<Wizzup>
like I said, this is doable, but I do not know/remember how
<diejuse41>
freemangordon Sorry I don't understand the technical details. What I want to know is if a user can edit the keyboard while ML is running without having to compile the source code. :)
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<Wizzup>
rafael2k: hey
<rafael2k>
Wizzup: hi there!
<Wizzup>
rafael2k: anything I can help with for ppp iage?
<Wizzup>
image
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<rafael2k>
Wizzup, I think the most important is with hildon-desktop
<rafael2k>
work on the primary display xrandr issue
<rafael2k>
the rest should be straight forward
<rafael2k>
I did not had time to work on it past 2 weeks, so on my side, the issue is stuck on the same point me and freemangordon discussed
<Wizzup>
I thought you had a workaround for now, right?
<rafael2k>
ha, not in form of code...
<rafael2k>
typing xrandr cmds in the cli does not really help
<rafael2k>
(not for something to be released to public)
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<Wizzup>
I see
<diejuse>
Wizzup I already know why it doesn't work that the virtual keyboard appears after dist-upgrading from Beowulf to Chimaera. During the upgrade I got the error "dpkg: error processing package hildon-desktop:arm64" and I skipped the error with "rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/hildon-desktop:arm64*" and "apt -f install" . But of course, that way it doesn't
<diejuse>
install correctly.
<Wizzup>
right
<diejuse>
I don't know why I get "dpkg: error processing package hildon-desktop:arm64"
<diejuse>
I don't have a solution at the moment.
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<Wizzup>
do you have more context?
<rafael2k>
the primary display hd picks is a disconnected one
<rafael2k>
but it is the one returned by x(randr) calls
<Wizzup>
so h-d should check whether it is connected or not?
<Wizzup>
or should we make the lcd the primary display
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<rafael2k>
I think both would work
<Wizzup>
the latter would maybe just be a dts change?
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: unfortunately xrandr reports inconsistent data to h-d
<freemangordon>
like, it reports display as connected, but no crt (or somesuch, I don;t remember the details)
<freemangordon>
also, for neither of the displays it reports the type (Panel, etc)
<freemangordon>
I really don;t know enough for xrandr to decide whether it is ok to report missing display as primary
<Wizzup>
wonder how xrandr knows then
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<freemangordon>
I am not sure it knows, as it reports primary for a disconnected display
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<freemangordon>
it reports no crt for the connected display and reports disconnected for primary
<freemangordon>
a mess
<freemangordon>
maybe you can boot your PPP and create some shared debuggin session
<freemangordon>
we can cooperate trying to get some sane data from what xrand reports
<freemangordon>
me alone was not able to
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<Wizzup>
ok, if rafael2k has a somewhat easy way to get me up and running
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<uvos>
freemangordon: all of those sound like obvious bugs