12:59 <zhasha> I have an interesting one for you. I upgraded from 10.0.4 to 11.0.0 and now my system won't boot. I have verified that /KERNEL and /SYSTEM are identical to the ones in the official image and I have tried removing the "quiet" option from extlinux.conf but I can't seem to get any output on the screen past syslinux. No errors, just a blank screen immediately followed by an automatic reboot

13:02 <zhasha> System is an AMD B450 motherboard with an Athlon 200GE IIRC, so Vega 3 GPU

13:04 <oblikoamorale> I've no idea what's going on, but is this on Generic or Legacy build?

13:05 <oblikoamorale> also, yay for LE11 final!

13:06 <zhasha> Generic, non-legacy

13:06 <zhasha> I'm more concerned about not being able to get ANY screen output

13:06 <zhasha> linux is normally pretty verbose when booting

13:09 <oblikoamorale> what's your boot media, have you verified that it's in a working shape?

13:10 <zhasha> I just downgraded back to 10.0.4 in a... manual fashion and it works fine again

13:11 <zhasha> so I'm going to go out on a limb and say the SSD is still fine

13:11 <zhasha> even if it is ancient

13:12 <zhasha> My current best guess is that the kernel crashes immediately on boot

13:13 <zhasha> And I did remember correctly, it's an Athlon 200GE with Radeon Vega Graphics

13:14 <zhasha> When in doubt I tend to blame DRM but I tried booting with nomodeset which changed nothing and I can't remember any other options to try out

13:19 <oblikoamorale> search suggests you can add a 'debug' kernel cmdline option for verbose output, not sure if you'll see anything with your system rebooting so quick though

13:19 <oblikoamorale> it's probably a good idea to try some livecd based on roughly the same kernel version and see if it even works

13:21 <zhasha> Does the image actually support booting from a CD because I do still have a bunch of them :P

13:30 <zhasha> Same result with a live USB

13:30 <zhasha> black screen, immediate reboot

13:31 <zhasha> I'm not really familiar with syslinux but I tried the normal way as well as 'live noquiet debug' and just '/KERNEL debug' with no change in behavior

13:43 <zhasha> I've been wondering if it's related to whatever issue was present in 10.0.3

14:29 <Bardon> Hello, libreelec website says that LE 11 is now stable, but the download page still calls it "Latest beta version". Is it stable, and safe to install?

14:32 <mack> Bardon: for safe to install, make sure you read https://libreelec.tv/2023/03/06/libreelec-nexus-11-0-0/

14:33 <Bardon> mack: Thanks :). I did, which is why I was surprised to see the release being called beta on the download page. Maybe I missed something

14:35 <Bardon> I guess it's safe to install, it does say it's stable

14:35 <mack> it's safe to install if the conditions listed don't affect you

14:39 <Bardon> Ok, it should be fine then. Thanks for answering!

14:59 <LEBot> [slack] <CvH> @Bardon tx for hinting, I fixed the dl page

15:30 <zhasha> Image boots fine on my old laptop and now it really looks like the kernel dies in very early boot

15:50 <zhasha> I've now tried turning on all manner of debug logging and I don't even think it makes it into the kernel. It's like it dies in syslinux before it's even done loading

15:59 <zhasha> Okay, I can boot the kernel manually from the EFI shell so it's definitely syslinux crashing on loading the kernel

16:13 <zhasha> It works when EFI booting. My install is just so old it uses an MBR so I guess I'll have to reinstall and try again

16:22 <zhasha> yep, that did it

17:07 <zhasha> That was a very painful upgrade. Some more things you might want to make people aware of: MBR might be broken and remove <gui> settings from advancedsettings.xml if kodi won't start