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<acheam>
hi mr purple
<acheam>
how do you do?
<midfavila>
i do
<midfavila>
wrote a little invidious client earlier today
<midfavila>
it's still super alpha but it does work
<midfavila>
banged it out in like an hour and a half
<acheam>
you version controlled invcli~
<midfavila>
rip
<midfavila>
i blame mg
<acheam>
use the backup-to-home-directory option
<midfavila>
i probably should
<acheam>
although that creates ~/.mg.d which you might be against
<acheam>
would be an easy patch to put it wherever you want though
<midfavila>
ideally it just wouldn't make backups
<midfavila>
but I don't use mg enough to bother
<acheam>
mg -n
<acheam>
doesnt make backup files
<midfavila>
>expecting me to type two extra characters
<acheam>
then use the make-backup-files option
<midfavila>
you're not my dad
<midfavila>
>:c
<acheam>
you're using curl again?
<midfavila>
i'm using curl because it's more portable
<midfavila>
and because axel doesn't have the facilities I needed for this script
<midfavila>
i intend to rewrite invcli to be a tad more flexible in the future; today was just a rough draft
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<acheam>
what doesnt axel have?
<acheam>
-v alternative?
<midfavila>
the ability to output to stdout in a manner that doesn't make me want to tear my hair out, and the ability to do fuckery with outputting server responses
<acheam>
hmmm ok
<acheam>
why do you pipe sed|sed in line 16?
<midfavila>
because i was tired and didn't want to invest additional effort into making it do what I wanted to
<acheam>
dont you know that slows down your program by 0.0000001s and increases its IO weight?
<midfavila>
bite me, nerd
<acheam>
chat program for loners: cat /dev/stdout
<acheam>
cat /dev/stdin works as well
<midfavila>
>he doesn't manipulate file descriptors directly using his shell
<acheam>
how would you emulate that with POSIX shell?
<midfavila>
the power of es extends beyond mere poosix
<acheam>
hmm es looks interesting
<midfavila>
it is
<midfavila>
it has a lot of really fascinating ideas
<midfavila>
but in terms of execution it feels unfinished in some ways
<acheam>
I think I'll stick with /bin/sh for now
<midfavila>
es is only really worth it if you want the ability to kind of maybe sort of write lispy code with low overhead
<acheam>
If I want to write lispy code I'll use tinyscheme
<midfavila>
eh
<midfavila>
oh. I made a poor man's port of solarized to some X stuff the other day. dunno if I uploaded it yet
<midfavila>
it's moderately comfy
<midfavila>
like probably a solid 7.5
<acheam>
solarized light?
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
i'm using it with emwm
<acheam>
what do you mean by X stuff? Xresources options?
<midfavila>
mhm
<acheam>
nice
<midfavila>
i'll just dump a screenshot
<acheam>
I've been using the absolute stock options for theming
<acheam>
with the exception of a little bit of light XTerm customization to remove the scrollbar and increase the font size
<acheam>
stock adwaita actually isnt bad, for the one GTK program I use
<acheam>
oh I've been developing Chorizo again by the way
<midfavila>
i'm not the biggest fan of the black and white aesthetic personally though
<midfavila>
gah, that screenshot reminds me, I need to get back to studying mathematics...
<midfavila>
so many books to read, so little time
<acheam>
pauls math notes is epic
<midfavila>
maybe I'll check it out some time
<midfavila>
i've been picking through a copy of basic mathematics by serge lang. it's pretty interesting, since it includes proofs and step-by-step descriptions of how a lot of formulae are derived
<midfavila>
the dude spends like ten pages in the preface just shitting all over formal education, which is pretty amusing
<acheam>
nice
<acheam>
sounds good for you
<midfavila>
well, it covers everything up to freshman college mathematics in like 500 pages, so yeah. i just need to get back to it
<midfavila>
thinking of putting lisp on hold for now
<acheam>
done anything interesting with it recently
<midfavila>
nothing terribly, no
<midfavila>
i'm thinking of writing a CGI program to index and stream media on my LAN
<midfavila>
i'd like to get to the point where I can work on mezzano
<acheam>
nice
<acheam>
this week I wrote a nice little CGI website
<midfavila>
oh yeah? what for
<acheam>
basically replacing a google form
<midfavila>
oh, not bad then
<midfavila>
i'd like to add CGI to my site for screenshots and such at some point
<acheam>
parses and stores html form input and regurgitates it into a nice admin panel
<midfavila>
i really need to add more pictures...
<acheam>
anyone got mail client reccomendations? tried and have lost interest in mutt, alpine, claws, thunderbird
<acheam>
might give aerc another try
<midfavila>
i mean, you could always use nmh
<midfavila>
pair it with fetchmail or something
<midfavila>
then slap your user interface of choice on top
<acheam>
what user interface options are there?
<midfavila>
i've only experimented with xmh
<midfavila>
i'm sure there are others
<acheam>
hmm, mutt and claws can both read mh mailboxes