<phlebas>
antocuni: once 0.0.4 support in pypy is ready, it'd be great if you could try out the kiwi port. given that this is a dependency of matplotlib, I would then like to open an issue against the kiwi repo to gauge if they would be interested in working with us to migrate kiwi to hpy.
<phlebas>
i think with 0.0.5 we should be working to have the "binary backwards compat" story nailed down so that we can actually ask projects to do this with a straight face and they won't have to migrate as we keep breaking things
<Hodgestar>
phlebas: Having an actual project using HPy would be pretty exciting. It would be nice to be able to work with the backwards compatibility solution for a bit ourselves before having to commit it.
<antocuni>
phlebas: yes, that's a good plan
<antocuni>
support for tp_traverse was likely the hardest part of 0.0.4 support in pypy, but after that there are still features to be implemented
<phlebas>
antocuni: cool
<phlebas>
Hodgestar: yes, I didn't mean we should get them to merge it right away, we'll have to update our port to the latest master anyway :) but I would like to have a plan to start the discussion with actual projects, and kiwi seems a good candidate since it's active, relatively small, and shows great performance on both cpython and graalpython