13:01 <mattip> what time is the zoom call this Thurs? I have it down for 8-9UTC, is that correct?

14:04 <antocuni> I think I finally have some time for hpy today :)

14:05 <antocuni> I see in my email backlog that there were lots of PRs and discussions. Is there any particular PR and/or issue that you would me to look at?

14:31 <vstinner> hi. there are some minor updates on the Python C API ;-)

14:31 <vstinner> The Python Steering Council granted a PEP 387 (backward compatibility) exception for my Py_TYPE() and Py_SIZE() incompatible C API changes in Python 3.11: "Py_SIZE(obj) = size;" must now be written "Py_SET_SIZE(obj, size);". Decision: https://github.com/python/steering-council/issues/79

14:32 <vstinner> also, Erlend and me wrote a PEP to suggest replacing macros with static inline functions in the C API: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0670/

14:32 <vstinner> the intent is to avoid weird corner cases of macros, like unexpected return value

14:32 <antocuni> good news 👍

14:32 <vstinner> functions are a well defined API

14:33 <vstinner> have*

14:33 <vstinner> i hope that the PEP 670 will be considered as complete enough to summarize different opinions, so a decision can be taken on this PEP

14:34 <vstinner> i'm also working on https://bugs.python.org/issue45476 to disallow using some macros as l-value, like PyFloat_AS_DOUBLE()

14:42 <fangerer> antocuni: great that you find some time for HPy. I would appreciate if you have a quick look at my PR #251 such that I can make progress on that. I also think you should further look at PRs #259, #260, and #264

16:18 <mattip> what time is the zoom call this Thurs? I have it down for 8-9UTC, is that correct?

17:24 <fangerer> mattip: sorry, forgot to answer: no, we are back to _normal time_. So, it's 9-10a UTC (i.e. 10-11a CET)

17:24 <mattip> +1

17:34 <antocuni> fangerer: I reviewed #251, but I am writing more thoughts in #122 (not finished yet)

17:35 <fangerer> 👍 thank you

18:29 <antocuni> ok, I wrote a poem in #122 :)

18:44 <Hodgestar> vstinner: It's really encouraging that the Steer Council granted the exception. Woot.

18:45 <Hodgestar> vstinner: It feels like your macro replacement project is taking off a bit?