whitequark changed the topic of #glasgow to: digital interface explorer · code https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow · logs https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/glasgow · discord https://1bitsquared.com/pages/chat · production https://www.crowdsupply.com/1bitsquared/glasgow (FUNDED)
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<d1b2> <TomKeddie> Take a look at Attie's video streams, lots of good stuff in there. https://youtube.com/c/AttieGrande
<d1b2> <Attie> I've also taken notes on setup here: https://attie.co.uk/wiki/dev_boards/glasgow/
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<d1b2> <mbai> Thank you
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<kaji> Is there some project that's similar to glasgow?
<kaji> I've been meaning to get one, but it can't be shipped to my country unfortunately
<whitequark> which country?
<whitequark> Glasgow is open-source, so you can make your own if you can get the components
<kaji> China
<kaji> Thanks for making it open source! I've admired many of your work by the way :P I'm just not so great at pcb stuff, more of an FPGA engineer myself
<whitequark> can you contract someone to make it?
<cyborg_ar> well not even esden can make glasgows right now :P gotta wait for the silicon supply chain to be slightly less insane
<whitequark> hence "if you can get the components" yea...
<cyborg_ar> or design all the TI parts out :P
<whitequark> but seriously, China of all places should not be the one where it's hard to make custom electronics
<cyborg_ar> like i've been doing at $work for the past few months
<kaji> lol
<kaji> I'll try to ask around
<cyborg_ar> if you can get any made let me know, i really want one
<kaji> Sure :P
<cyborg_ar> i'm not one of the early birds so realistically i wont get mine until next year or so
<cyborg_ar> screw you car companies, and texas
<kaji> Just so I know what I'm talking about. When I contract someone to get it made, do I just ask them to print the PCB, or do I get them to assemble the parts as well
<kaji> My soldering skills are like really bad
<whitequark> there are contract manufacturers that do both
<whitequark> pcbway for example
<kaji> Gotcha
<kaji> And I should only use c1?
<whitequark> this got a lot cheaper recently
<whitequark> C1 is ok, C3 i don't even have any in my hands
<cyborg_ar> pcbway works pretty well for assembly. i have used them a couple of times
<kaji> lol gotcha
<cyborg_ar> the hard part is really getting the components
<cyborg_ar> and getting the components to pcbway
<cyborg_ar> biggest issue i had with them is that i sent them a roll of precious components and they managed to lose it :(
<kaji> I'll come back when I've got some answers :P
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<gruetzkopf> there are many many contract manufacturers and protoype services in china - if you're able to find one locally (that can get the parts), that at least saves a bunch of shipping cost
<kaji> Hopefully the price will be reasonable enough :P
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<d1b2> <Holonium> What was the cutoff for the early birds?
<d1b2> <Attie> first 200 boards iirc
<d1b2> <Holonium> Okay, so I probably didn't make that one.
<d1b2> <Attie> It should say on your order confirmation
<d1b2> <Attie> e.g:
<d1b2> <Holonium> I did not.
<d1b2> <Holonium> I wish I had... I am so eager to get a good logic analyzer to let me probe various boards I am working on.
<d1b2> <esden> If you just want a logic analyzer there are plenty of other options that work nicely with sigrok.
<d1b2> <esden> Glasgow is in a different class of devices to be honest.
<d1b2> <esden> Universal protocol converter is how I would call this.
<d1b2> <Holonium> Got it, but still, the versatility of it is what makes me so eager...
<d1b2> <Holonium> It did convince me to get a case though, since it seems like the sort of investment to protect...
<d1b2> <Holonium> If you were to recommend a good analyzer to serve as a temporary tool until then, what would it be?
<d1b2> <xabean> I've got a salae8, but https://sigrok.org/wiki/Supported_hardware is a good list of what sigrock supports.
<d1b2> <xabean> TIL: sigrock supports my rigol osilliscope
<d1b2> <Holonium> Figured I would check to see if one just stood out.
<d1b2> <esden> Sigrok supports a ton of devices. It is hard to give you just one specific "best".
<d1b2> <esden> Depends on what frequency you need. Under 48Msps you can get the bitmagic-basic for example: https://1bitsquared.com/products/bitmagic-basic
<d1b2> <Holonium> Just something to hold over until the Glasgow ships...
<d1b2> <Holonium> If that makes sense...
<d1b2> <Holonium> Practice a bit with sigrok so that I will be comfortable using it with the Glasgow...
<d1b2> <Holonium> That one does look like a really good, inexpensive one, something that should let me monitor most of the things I would be doing...
<d1b2> <esden> Yeah, bitmagic-basic will do that for you.
<d1b2> <Holonium> For the Glasgow, I plan to use it for things more like the analysis of some motherboard signals that have been making me curious, things where there is more to keep track of... Thank you for pointing me to that one.
<d1b2> <xabean> oh wow, the bitmagic basic looks pretty awesome and SUPER cheap!
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<cyborg_ar> I wish someone would have made a pattern gen firmware for those cheap FX2 boards
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<cyborg_ar> it'd be the old saleae working in reverse
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<electronic_eel> cyborg_ar: don't they have some buffer ic in between? i'd say they need one to be 5v compatible
<cyborg_ar> well id be using the lcsoft dev board
<cyborg_ar> i just happen to need to generate a pattern at 0.8MHz and would love to just have a dumb dongle i can just stream bits into
<cyborg_ar> a pattern that is about 60k states long
<electronic_eel> do you have a ftdi dongle? the newer ones should be able to do it. don't use a ft232r or before, their timing is completely broken
<electronic_eel> but i guess you already have the fx2 dev board. so it is more about writing pc software / firmware for this
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<cyborg_ar> yeah i know it is possible, the GPIF peripheral on those old cypress chips is amazing. I wish i had the time to mess with that
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