01:20 <FromGitter> <SebastianSzturo> Was there ever a proposal for an official crystal task manager like Elixir has mix?

01:21 <FromGitter> <SebastianSzturo> It's a bit confusing to see every framework using a different approach

01:53 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> Shards for dependencies and most use make for the rest

09:35 <FromGitter> <SebastianSzturo> Yeah it looks like make is the most popular. I guess dynamic task systems like rake don't make much sense in crystal because they need to compile every time the file changes. Probably will be worth revisiting when the crystal interpreter ships. ⏎ ⏎ Would be great to be able to add custom commands to shards and maintain everything in one language.

11:55 <FromGitter> <riffraff169> i use make with shards

12:38 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> i was never a fan of these custom make-clones. can never remember their syntax, always have to double check (is it `yarn` or `npm` here?), just give me a makefile any day please.

12:39 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> worst is when their magic blows up with some obscure stack trace that doesn't even tell you whether some command/function failed or the silly tool itself

13:12 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> @SebastianSzturo prob not going to happen: https://github.com/crystal-lang/shards/issues/110

13:14 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> most of the tasks required for crystal are around building, running tests, generating docs etc. Make does a fine job at it. if you need console commands to use in prod or something, there are a few shards to help build CLIs that you could use

16:09 <wwalker> anyone here programming crystal? For me, Syntastic is not working. It shows checker coreectly, but :SyntasticCheck does nothing. "Currently enabled checkers: crystal" If I set the checker to ameba, I get great linting. Any idea why the crystal checker does nothing?

16:11 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> using https://github.com/vim-crystal/vim-crystal ?

16:17 <riza> wwalker: which language server are you running

17:23 <wwalker> riza: none. Never used a language server before. Reading now.

17:25 <wwalker> riza: which do you recommend? I see crystalline, awesome-crystal, and scry (which is apparently a WIP)

17:28 <wwalker> ah.. awesome-crystal isn't a language server just a project list

17:29 <riza> wwalker: i think crystalline is the most maintained, yeah

17:30 <riza> ive used vim-ale as my lsp connection for a while and it connects well with crystalline

17:30 <riza> syntastic might also have an lsp mode, but i dont remember

17:33 <wwalker> riza: Thanks. I've never used vim-ale, may be a good time to switch to it from syntastic. I rock back and forth between being a developer and a sre/sysad/devops every few years. Today, as an SRE, I needed to do some serious dev work, used to do a lot of ruby (10 years ago) so crystal looked good.

18:22 <FromGitter> <riffraff169> so puppet instead of ansible

19:27 <riza> wwalker: hey that sounds like how i work, welcome to the language and i hope you find what you need in it

22:25 <FromGitter> <WintonMc_twitter> y este lenguaje tiene GUI para trabajar?

22:30 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> There are a few GUI libs, but I wouldn't say that's crystal's strongest area at the moment