00:05 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> oh yea i think mine will be similar, just trying to minimize the boilerplate, ⏎ this is what it looks like so far ⏎ ⏎ https://gist.github.com/m-o-e/ce32608cdbf3ef4e7ec2df50ecef70e7 [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=6240fbd7c435002500103c56]

00:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> +1 for the rendering feature, i may see why you need content negotiation now ;)

00:14 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> are they global tho? like can you have two diff routes handle returned strings differently?

00:15 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> heh, yea, that's exactly where i bumped into it. want the default exception handler to render as text when there's no accept json in the request. (because reading escaped json in spec errors is annoying)

00:16 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> yea they are global atm. the whole thing is a singleton cause no way to make the macro magic work otherwise. but i'll probably add optional scopes at some point to group routes/renderers together. should be doable, just not high on the list atm

00:21 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> https://gist.github.com/m-o-e/7039e615e3cd88d950dae8a87c8fce25#file-luxlux-cr-L22

00:30 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> 👍 sounds like a plan

00:31 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> if its a singleton, id make sure it properly handles concurrent requests

00:36 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> yeh it does. i mean it's not fully a singleton. handlers etc. are instances. just `.render` & co are macros, so the top-level has to be pretty much singleton. ⏎ ⏎ but through the voodoo of namedtuples you can of course also have a renderer that does ⏎ https://gist.github.com/m-o-e/8bc1d8aac923002cae8971770e5ea0de - so it's quite flexible overall :) [https:

00:36 <FromGitter> ... //gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=62410300257a3578254d9abd]

00:40 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ahh gotcha

00:51 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> is there a way to embed js/html into the http server?

00:52 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> @moe:busyloop.net dunno if it helps but https://crystal-lang.org/api/master/NamedTuple.html#from%28hash%3AHash%29%3Aself-class-method is a thing. E.g. allows double splatting

00:52 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> @nimble:cyberia.club you mean return HTML/JS in the response?

00:52 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Yes

00:52 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> sure, its just a string

00:53 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> How do I do it?

00:55 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> just as you would any string

00:55 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `context.response << "string"`, being one of the ways

00:57 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> hmm, sounds like you may want a more fully featured framework like athena, amber or lucky. returning raw html like that works but will get cumbersome for anything but very simple cases

00:57 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> or at least use a templating engine like Crinja or ECR

00:58 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> yup

01:01 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Its my first tome using crystal I am just getting the basics sorry

01:01 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> and documentation is hard to find

01:02 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> do you know about https://crystal-lang.org/reference/1.3/ and https://crystal-lang.org/api/master/index.html ?

01:02 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> I suppose ⏎ context.response.content_type ⏎ ⏎ I have to set this up to use html ? [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=624109208db2b95f0a8a3017]

01:02 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> those are the two best sources

01:02 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://crystal-lang.org/reference/1.3/getting_started/http_server.html

01:03 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://crystal-lang.org/api/HTTP/Server.html

01:03 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Yeah I am using that but I don't know where to go from there, hence I am here

01:03 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yea so like in that first example want to use `text/html` instead, then `.print html`

01:03 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> where `html` is the HTML string you want to return

01:04 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> could use https://crystal-lang.org/api/master/ECR.html for that

01:48 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> I can't get this to work

01:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> are you getting a specific error or?

01:49 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> image.png (https://gitter.ems.host/_matrix/media/v1/download/cyberia.club/tZBPmguiuGTCXLSpxMuGtpmb)

01:50 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> and what's your code?

01:50 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> context.response.content_type = "text/html" ⏎ context.response.print "index.html"

01:50 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> right, you're printing the string `index.html`

01:51 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> if its just a raw file, you could do something like `context.response.print File.read "index.html"`

01:51 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> or if its going to be large ⏎ ⏎ ```File.open "index.html" do |file| ⏎ IO.copy file, context.response ⏎ end``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=6241149cc61ef0178e93c476]

01:53 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Alright that worked now thanks!

01:54 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> I have another question however and I don't think I have seen this one being asked

01:55 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> How can I make the server "reactive" I mean updating it without reloading. I have seen it is capable of such in the playground

01:56 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `crystal play` you mean?

01:56 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> it uses websockets

01:56 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Thing is I want to do a countdown timer I already got most of the Time logic already

01:56 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Yes

01:56 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> But it only updates for whoever is seeing the page if they refresh it

01:57 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> I really want to avoid using javascript for this

01:57 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> Since I want to learn crystal

01:57 <FromGitter> <nimble:cyberia.club> I will give it a look

01:57 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> im pretty sure you have to use *some* JS

01:57 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> as the server cant return interactive context afaik?

01:58 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> since the HTML would be static

02:02 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://evilmartians.com/chronicles/hotwire-reactive-rails-with-no-javascript is pretty interesting

02:02 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> tho ofc its Rails, dont think anything like that exists in Crystal land atm

05:04 <FromGitter> <rishavs> If there is a need to refresh it, this sounds like a simple server side logic. If you want to do this without refreshing the page you will need either JS (the normal way) or websockets (the way Elixir liveView uses)

09:30 <FromGitter> <SebastianSzturo> Is there an official crystal shards website? Seems like most of the ones linked have expired ssl certificates and are unmaintained

09:34 <jhass[m]> shards is designed as a decentralized system, so not really. https://shardbox.org/ is as close as it gets being maintained by one of the core team

09:36 <jhass[m]> what all the broken sites mostly did was just returning the results for a github search with language:crystal anyhow

10:16 <FromGitter> <SebastianSzturo> Ah makes sense, thanks you!

10:55 <FromGitter> <moe:busyloop.net> i still hope crystalshards.org will be recovered. it's been the most useful of the bunch :(

15:59 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> @SebastianSzturo https://github.com/veelenga/awesome-crystal is also pretty good