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<uwumeowmeownyaa>
Why would someone need a pip2crux or ctan2crux kind of program? Isn't is better to use the underlying package managers directly?
<zorz>
uwumeowmeownyaa: can you install python's fastapi-slim or selenium with the underlying package manager?
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<uwumeowmeownyaa>
zorz: as for selenium, you can. You will need to install at least one driver, though.
<uwumeowmeownyaa>
The fastapi-slim package seems to be installable via pip too.
<zorz>
all of them can be installable via pip
<zorz>
there is no selenium or fastapi package in crux. so... if you dont want to use pip --user and want a system wide installation, what you do?
<zorz>
create a port of the package
<zorz>
this is what it does.
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<uwumeowmeownyaa>
Why install it system-wide when there are virtual environments?
<zorz>
i dont like virtual enviroments.
<uwumeowmeownyaa>
Why?
<zorz>
just dont like them. why to activate a virtual enviroment for something i use regularly, plus speed.. virtual enviroments are good only for testing in my use case.
<uwumeowmeownyaa>
Sounds fair.
<zorz>
uwumeowmeownyaa: unless PID 1, nothing else is standard :)
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<braewoods__>
zorz, heh. Speaking of PIDs, I was surprised to start seeing PIDs with really high values on recent distributions.
<zorz>
braewoods__: you mean /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max? Linux used 16-bit PIDs, now its 32-bit. up to 4mil bye default.
<braewoods__>
Probably.
<frinnst>
wtf stupid qt6, why does it fail to compile if you have an older version installed?
<frinnst>
/usr/lib/libQt6Core.so.6: version `Qt_6.8' not found (required by /tmp/qt6-base-6.8.0-1-work/src/build/lib/qt6/rcc)
<frinnst>
well duh
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<cruxbridge>
<tim> frinnst: I see a weird missing file in footprint outside of my build container too thats triggered by additional packages being available at build time.. not sure what it is yet
<cruxbridge>
<tim> check if qt6-base actually got updated
<cruxbot>
[core/3.7]: libarchive: updated to version 3.7.7
<cruxbot>
[contrib/3.7]: monit: updated to version 5.34.2
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<uwumeowmeownyaa>
I think that I forgot a very important thing. When updating a CRUX GNU/Linux package called a "port", the utility program that performs the update, also referred to as a "package manager", does not recognize new dependencies added to the package after the initial download of a port. There is a way to find such packages, but is there a way to install it as a dependency, not a standalone package?
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<frinnst>
yeah qt6-base was updated. but it's been like this forever more or less - the build system looks on the host filesystem for stuff, if available, and tries to use that. Since the verison on the host fs is wrong it will fail
<frinnst>
I ususally just remove the packages and depinst them again
<frinnst>
(like i'm doring right now :))
<cruxbot>
[xorg/3.7]: xorg-bdftopcf: updated to version 1.1.2
<cruxbot>
[xorg/3.7]: xorg-xtrans: updated to version 1.5.1
<cruxbot>
[xorg/3.7]: xorg-xmag: updated to version 1.0.8
<frinnst>
oh I dont know
<uwumeowmeownyaa>
This seems to be a good solution. Very UNIX-way.
<frinnst>
uwumeowmeownyaa: pkgadd et-al does not know of dependencies. prt-get does, It acts as a frontend
<frinnst>
slava ukraini btw
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<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmeownyaa: So you hate BSD, but you like UNIX? Speaking of double standards...
<uwumeowmeownyaa>
BSD is cuck-licensed and UNIX-way philosophy is not.
<remiliascarlet>
Sounds like you fell for the Luke Smith meme.
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