00:57 <dlcusa> For anyone here not following #crux: I put up http:dlcusa.net/CRUX/XFCE_Wayland.mbox as an indication of XFCE' long-range viability.

00:57 <dlcusa> TL;DR--it seems mate may be better supported not too far down the road.

01:47 <farkuhar> dlcusa: the last message in that XFCE thread has the prescient line "If the GTK project becomes less generally useful to non-Gnome projects, let it go its own way." If enough DE developers are interested in keeping GTK3 alive, Rich Shep is suggesting they band together and do so.

01:54 <farkuhar> Rich continues in the very next sentence, "Unless something in GTK3 breaks, stick with it." Would Rich consider it a breakage in GTK3, though, if an icon theme upgrade suddenly makes a whole collection of icons unavailable to GTK3 applications? Case in point: https://imgur.com/a/JrWFXCU

02:15 <farkuhar> It looks like the GTK developers recently fixed this issue: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/184

02:37 <dlcusa> farkuhar, don't forget not much work is happening on the Wayland part.

12:33 <farkuhar> dlcusa: The missing icons issue is common to Wayland and X. Apparently it has something to do with the deprecation of gtk_image_new_from_stock (starting with GTK 3.10). Older codebases are assumed to have enough warning that by now they should have switched to gtk_image_new_from_icon_name. See https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/4790 .

21:34 <jaeger> yeah, it never building the same way twice was always annoying me, that seems to be a fakeroot interaction in my case. Don't know if you use fakeroot

21:34 <jaeger> When I build it as root that variation seems to mostly go away

21:34 <beerman> right, sorry

21:35 <beerman> i have no fakeroot in my vm

21:35 <jaeger> ok

21:35 <beerman> i try to keep it as vanilla as possible, and fakeroot is not among it

21:35 <beerman> yeah, test compiled pistol and glow, both compiled fine

21:36 <beerman> i do gunzip in the container as well, didnt bother yet to switch to xz

21:36 <jaeger> my container is basically core, prt-utils, and fakeroot

21:36 <beerman> mh

21:36 <jaeger> Similar idea but I build everything with fakeroot besides go

21:39 <jaeger> off for now, more meetings

21:39 <beerman> alright, I'll try xz and see if that still works and post it here, probably off soonly after that

21:39 <beerman> trying to work on my sleeping habbits

21:58 <beerman> out of 4 builds, only the first one works..

21:58 <beerman> i used xz for the resulting pkg twice as well as gz

22:33 <beerman> so the latest build again returned a footprint without /usr/lib/go/bin/go, I checked $PKG though and it seemed to contain all files in a functional state..