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<archetech>
suite madam blue ;)
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<archetech>
so rk3588 status a few things got mainlined but still in the dead zone on mesa-g610
<archetech>
6.8 ? I wont hold my breath
<archetech>
arm molasses devs
<archetech>
whooever pays the $ like mediatek gets the dev attn
<archetech>
rockchip cheap azz company no more rock chip for me (lol I said that after the rk3328 fiasca)
<archetech>
o
<archetech>
boy did they scam us on that rock5
<archetech>
I can run KDE 6 on X with 6.7 or use a really messed up 6.5rc and get kde wayland not bad but its all hand compiled rest of you suckkers get llvm lol
<archetech>
whys my DE segfaulting ? cuz ya use armbian and a broken amazing fate trash
<archetech>
arch manjaro debian ubu all garbage unless ya use fate's crap
<archetech>
so not just armbian ...nobody cares
<archetech>
fine by me im good
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> lol such is the nature of a more or less irrelevant architecture. ARM isn't for general purpose crap, and no one of any consequence uses it that way. So we suffer with our toys
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> well, Apple does, but they could just have easily taken MIPS and thrown a billion dollars at it
<archetech>
tony!
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> ARM was more convenient because their purpose-built handhelds already used it. And howdy
<archetech>
yeah Im still shacked at the in difference the rk3588 has been subjected too
<archetech>
shocked
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's honestly double the price its performance tolerates
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> that's part of it
<archetech>
its like ill spend an hr here or thre on it
<archetech>
but as a dev I work on what I get paid
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> the RK3288 and RK3399 were Google babies, so they got decent attention by a big player. The RK3588 was a hail Mary on the part of Rockchip with no one actually asking for it
<archetech>
Noris is a whore
<archetech>
norisb
<archetech>
borisbrazillion
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> dunno who that is, but we could try to be a little civil, we all gotta eat
<archetech>
well its simple dont make a a guy who dont care LEAD DEV Tony!
<archetech>
buy this SBC! we'll get ya some drivers in a reasonable time window turns out that is 3 years you twits
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Well yeah, even the almighty Raspberry Pi foundation can't manage to push their poor users hard enough to do all the work for them fast enough to provide the support you'd actually want for their gadgets
<archetech>
mangky scotts gits I think I soiled my armor
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<archetech>
yeah but they get some usable progress go read Phoronix
<archetech>
THAT'S NO ORDINARY RABBIT!
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> If I had 10 million users willing to do everything for me I could release a complete pile of garbage tomorrow and wind up with good support. They are marketing masters that made a clone army of die hard religious zealots to serve them. Hats off to them for their success
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I'm curious about their dabbling in silicon, it seems... a strange distraction
<archetech>
Thats the most foul tempered rodent you've ever seen
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> heh
<archetech>
yep I think ya summed that up right
<archetech>
we are their foolsd
<archetech>
and they separate us from our cash accordingly
<archetech>
thye will pay for such treachery
<archetech>
they
<archetech>
not to far away
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> haha
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> well, the chinese vendors are just board factories, in general. They make boards as fast as we can remember the random assortment of letters and numbers they stuck in the name, and never support a damned thing because that's not their job
<archetech>
thye are dishonest imdone with ARM
<archetech>
never buying another arm device
<archetech>
you be wise to do the same
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> The community got too excited about a processor intended to run toasters and smart displays. Want a router chip? ARM is a good pick. Want a small NAS? also good. Want to browse the web and play games? no
<archetech>
NOPE latest intel can do all that better
<archetech>
cheaper faster and with support on linux
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I won't disagree, my Plex server got moved off of ARM onto an Odroid H3+
<archetech>
theres N100/200 and much more
<archetech>
I saw a amd 5700U nuc like thing for $200 US
<archetech>
thats 8 cores 16 threads of massive power
<archetech>
add some ram and a cheap ssd done
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> ARM itself isn't really the problem, it's what processors we have to play with. TV box processors, chromebook processors, an occasional cell phone chip. They're toys. Deep embedded stuff with severe power restrictions are one place to put ARM. if you need power, go x86
<archetech>
its the drivers dude
<archetech>
toys or not no drivers ya got silcon junk
<archetech>
silicon
<archetech>
oh I got 8 cores of worthless silcon=rk2488
<archetech>
3588
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> sure, and it costs money to get drivers written. Vendors make a kernel and ship it for the purpose they built the processor, like being a TV box. blobs and hacks and they are mission accomplished. No one else will bring the cash required to pay a team of devs to implement good drivers for something like that, it's just too much cash
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> so hobbyists and a couple random investors that want their gadget to suck less are what you get
<archetech>
dont sell a sbc soc that will take 3+ yrs to use whats the confusion
<archetech>
its a bait and steal
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> lol they don't care. Their vendor kernel boots and shows glxgears, they don't even pretend it's more than that
<archetech>
well F that
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> yeah, it's BS
<archetech>
aint fallin for it ever
<archetech>
I spent on a expect decent time frame
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> like I said, their goal is to keep presenting consumers with a steady stream of shiny things they will impulse buy. That's it
<archetech>
well if we discusss it in forums we can BOYCOTT the pricks
<archetech>
see how they like spending a zillion $ and no buyers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Nah, people still buy garbage TV boxes and show up expecting help, it's hopeless
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> we're all just goldfish
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> angry goldfish distracted by shiny things
<archetech>
good point thet sheep still buy the lie
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> and people new to the community/hobby
<archetech>
whats that line dont eat the cake? lol
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> And if my playing around helps it suck less for others, bonus points. and if someone buys me some beers even better
<archetech>
well duh isnt that why got into arm
<archetech>
I simply didnt anticipate so few like you around arm
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's every community, and the learning curve for this kind of stuff is steep.
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I'd be more active if I wasn't still rebuilding my workspace 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> which takes money, which I don't have a huge amount of floating around, so it's still going to be a minute before that's taken care of
<archetech>
I started out with no arm knowlege on the rk3328 but man humanity has failed
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> hahaha
<archetech>
I will singlehandedly crush all arm maketing
<archetech>
marketing
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> that chip is such a tragedy in general. A TV box processor with no one to love it, with honestly a decent feature set, but never seemed to get the bugs worked out. We have a memory controller driver in Armbian for it, but it's getting fragile as the kernel changes around it
<archetech>
yup 3328 is just a good example of here make this work good luck with 3 revs
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I don't have the chops to try to stuff that monstrocity into mainline, I'd get rolled for sure
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<archetech>
so I got the hofbrau winter ale
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> the LC/Firefly Renegade is a solid board, it does what it's supposed to and the ram is 100000% better than the Pine board
<archetech>
beer never fails
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> ah nice. I'm sipping a cask strength bourbon with ginger bitters to add a little variety
<archetech>
arm should be like beer
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> hahaha
<archetech>
pay and use it
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's an appliance architecture, th pay part means a contract to build an appliance
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> make a chromebook, good. make a toaster, good. make a router, good. make a ridiculous server, also good. make a general purpose device, well tough luck.
<archetech>
right but arm is beer with no hops or barly
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> the closest thing to a general purpose ARM device I've owned is a PHytium D2000, and well, it had it's own fascinating problems
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> hahahaha
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> gluten free beer
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> the phytium had the PCIe lanes you would want, it had external GPU so good drivers, and it also used more power than a superior x86 option 😄
<archetech>
seriously you and I could list a zillion sbc that failed and a few ended up usefull
<archetech>
thats a bad track record
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it all comes down to expectations. I do headless stuff, so my bar is lower 😄
<archetech>
well is never use an arm soc on a mission critical NAS no way
<archetech>
is=I'd
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I'm currently playing with "Robot OS" https://www.ros.org/
<archetech>
how peps bought those 3399 nas'es is beyond me
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> well, for a NAS you just need the main guts of the SoC working. If it is good on RAM, good on PCIe/Sata/whatever, and it can do networking effectively, it's fine
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I took Plex off of my Helios64 and it does the job just fine. 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I need to disable all the fluff in that DTS I think, just get the modules out of RAM, displays are for noobs
<archetech>
how sad to have to manip an install to get basic functionality
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> It works as is, but could be better
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I use ZFS so it's RAM hungry
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> pizza
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> personal choices
<archetech>
ZFS is dumb
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> 😄
<archetech>
so is btrfs
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> so is *fs
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> well, it's been pretty sweet, just don't dedup unless you have all the RAMS
<archetech>
heck ZFS/btrfs barely works on x86 lol
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> My casual observation of open source is, someone has to do the shitty, hard, first step
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> I'm probably just going to raid 0+1 on my NAS
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I stuffed a fairly complete dts for the NanoPC-T6 into mainline, and now a couple other people are expanding on it, likely they would not be engaged if I hadn't shoved the thing up the hill in the first place
<archetech>
id take a ddr2 based intel cpu nas over anyhting in last 4 yrs set and forget
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> eeeyeah
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> haha yeah
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> hey, I didn't say it was pretty
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> can't say I looked 🙂 , was agreeing to the second part
<archetech>
I have an I5 3570 quad running a raid 0 nas with 8 gb ram adn 2 toshiba 1 gb rusty disks its bullit proff
<archetech>
proof
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> raid 0 💀
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> a couple folks have started making it better, I neglected some stuff like the card detect on the SD, etc. and, as collabora adds stuff it needs to be kept in line with "state of the art"
<archetech>
its saturates the gb lan
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I mean raid isn't a backup anyway, no matter what kind it is
<archetech>
show me an arm that can do that
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> my RK3399 actually does
<archetech>
true raid is for speed with me just back up the nas
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> these little chips may be junk, be it's not reasonable to underestimate them entirely
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> these little chips may be junk, but it's not reasonable to underestimate them entirely
<archetech>
ya 3399 will do it and choke all over chk the logs
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> right, you have to, mtbf between like drives means if you have one go down you're probably going to have a second
<archetech>
my above nas has zero crap in the logs
<archetech>
it just works
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I've been running a helios64 since they sent out the dev samples, I can tell you the rk3399 doesn't have any issues with Gb LAN. the 2.5 on mine is faulty though and I haven't performed "The Fix"
<archetech>
id look at the OMV arm logs and compare to intel nas
<archetech>
just flake city
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> oh, a prebuilt NAS OS for generic arm is bound to be bad
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I have just straight up armbian on there, dmesg has nothing in it after boot and it's got 35 days uptime
<archetech>
I only turn on the nas when needed so power usgae is negligible too
<archetech>
usage
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it will hang occasionally, every 90-ish days
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> but I blame that on RAM, it runs at 80% of the 4 GB at all times
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> that's ZFS being hungry
<archetech>
right flakey my intel nas logs are clean and theres no "occational "hickups"
<archetech>
over many months
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> 4x a year flaky I can handle, my desktops can't stomach more than wee of uptime
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> umm, week. tyhey aren't pissing themselves, usually
<archetech>
so im sold on simple proven intel tech
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> good for you
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I think I have an x86 NAS coming, but it might have been a scam, we'll see 😄
<archetech>
lol
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> then I'll help maintain the Helios64, I loved the concept, a shame Kobol had to shut it's doors
<archetech>
I saw a 5700u nuc for $200 if was in for some new tech that would be the buy
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> right now the Helios64 is serving files, the Odroid H3+ is running Plex and Minecraft servers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> (Kids and I play minecraft)
<archetech>
for that 200 it would take 10 arm sbc's to match it compute wise
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> it only takes 2 rk3588 to match an n100 in processing power
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> right. I use ARM stuff for building music players/small robots/control surfaces for home assistant/etc
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> yeah but they cost too much for that, and their software is junk at the moment. As much as I want them to be awesome, they are not cutting it yet
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> *yet*
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Rockchip is too weak to properly support, I honestly think they don't have the capability, let alone the will
<archetech>
right good app idea bad implement
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> like RK3399, by the time they are mature enough to use seriously, they'll be hopelessly outgunned by literally everything else
<archetech>
3588 blows it away theoretically but 3588 has no drivers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> for now
<archetech>
they just got basic pci-e working this week
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> it's coming along
<archetech>
its worked for a yr but it was a hack
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> PCIe has been in mainline a while, although some boards didn't have it enabled I guess
<archetech>
the whole f'in 3588 stuff is just hacks
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> 6.6 has a lot of the goodies, but the board device trees weren't up to date
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> pcie has quirks I think in most ARM
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Samsung HDMI is just amazing though 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> that one took some work
<archetech>
read what collabora blog said I was shcked at the poor report
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> maybe a SoC will actually like all these Samsung monitors with their absolute bullshit non-standard compliant EDID-ignoring controllers 😄 😄
<archetech>
we got a few rkxx stuff going on rock5 THANKS!
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I see Efe is pushing the R6S and C to mainline. Good, no FriendlyElec clusterfuck device trees
<archetech>
Ive switched to my hobby to AV gear lol
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> they use the most bone-headed and ridiculous structures...
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> "We have NanoPi6 dtsi that is useless and overly complicated, causing a totally unreadable tree"
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> that would have been their way
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Heiko is very forgiving. too forgiving. 😄
<archetech>
arm is for the birds Cambridge Audio AXA35 int amp and Axiom VP-150 centers as L?R fronts
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> hahaha
<archetech>
im an old school av guy back to the late70's :)
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I've had horrible experience with the OPi's. It's hard for me to even consider one, even free
<archetech>
see now AV is worth chatting about the joy factor is high vs this arm BS
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it does look nicely packaged
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I sense non-centered heat sink holes again
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> yuuup
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Radxa totally screwed the pooch on that too
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's a big pet peeve of mine 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Hardkernel is guilty too, with the XU4
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> lol, I just throw a mountless 40x40x20mm HS on it
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> use a 3d printed case to hold it on
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> sigh, but we shouldn't need to fuck around with half-assed measures like that. I'll do design reviews for cheap and give feedback, what I'll do it for $1000/board
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> meh, but we do.
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Yeah, I'm an engineer, this is physically painful to me 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Mechanical packaging/form factor standard ---> component layout. not the other way
<archetech>
hey mr engineer got some hifi gear?
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's like the whole "Pico-ITX " thing. Literally the only Pico-ITX *COMPLIANT* board is made by ASUS
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> no, I've got only the basic audio stuff, some Polk audio floor standing speakers, some home made stuff, etc
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I wound my own inductors for the crossovers in my home made speakers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> won't do that again, but it was good for learning
<archetech>
ah very good
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> I just have a couple bluetooth bookshelf speakers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> *Hissing noises while holding up a silver corss*
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> *Hissing noises while holding up a silver cross*
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> 😄 kidding
<archetech>
lol infinty is a staple in hifi history
<archetech>
first speakers I bought were infinty brand
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> my headphones are Audiotechnica M50x studio monitors. A bit pricey for me, but sound great
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> I think theyre HiVi-Swans M200MKII
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> my speakers
<archetech>
pfft AKG 240 studio headphones here
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> oh nice, those look good
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<archetech>
I sold hifi 1979 -1986 the GOLDEN years
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> my PC speakers are just a set of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's I bought... *checks notes* 15 years ago
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> yeah, they put out some sound. also, the subs have been replaced in 'em
<archetech>
yeah Klipsch Pold standard mainstream stuff they're "ok"
<archetech>
polk
<archetech>
move up one level its a diif world
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> Ja. After a few years of acoustics classes (I was needing electives and ran out of EE topics) I learned that expectation bias is 97% of audio above the high end mainstream stuff
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> physics is physics is math
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> and I'm cost sensitive still 😄
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I want to print this just because
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> my headits cuuuuute
<archetech>
thtas ok i am too ya have to cuz themarketing in audio makes armm look like amatuers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> its cuuuuute
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I just got a used Ender 5 plus, so I have the build area for it
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> once I replace that joke of an extruder and upgrade the hot end anyway
<archetech>
Im currently contemplating a big speaker upgrade
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> my headphones are a sony WH-1000XM4
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <infinity_q> whats the required area?
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> yeah, archetech, whenever I see some audio guy acting like he's describing a fine wine when listening to speakers I laugh at them
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it was just too big for my 7.9" resin printer
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's small, but my FDM printer was an FLSUN Q5
<archetech>
$1500 for Ascend Acoustics sierra-EX v2 bookshelfs
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> that's a lot. I'd probably hazard using my maths to build another set
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> I have rainman maths
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[Discord] <infinity_q> I have no maths
<archetech>
yeah its a fun hobby full of idiots vs the real deal audiophiles
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[Discord] <infinity_q> I'm an idiot
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> lol I didn't see you crowing over a $5000 amplifier that has a poarized AC cable. so no
<archetech>
DIY is a new thing in audio
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> they make "hifi NVMe's" for these idiots
<archetech>
id love to see a guy like you build a set of kickass speakers for cheap
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[Discord] <infinity_q> I'm speechless
<archetech>
id be your first cust
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> the depths of audiophile depravity know no bounds
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> the smart plan is to isolate all digital from analog cleanly, then it doesn't matter at all what individual subcomponents do.
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> if the concern is noise, that can be handled by the entire digital area as a chunk, and if latancy is the worry for data selivery, buffer to RAM before decode
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> even running uncompressed WAV isn't big enough to worry about stuffing the whole file in RAM before playing
<archetech>
man I love tight bass almsot as much as a tight a...
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> ROFL easy killer 😄
<archetech>
heh
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> but, agreed, tight bass is the shit, sloppy cabinets are the worst
<archetech>
I got a little yamaha 8" sub that rocks
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> nice. I have a polk 10" that matches the floor standing speakers
<archetech>
ok so you arent a complete engineer DWEEB
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> that 3D printed one is only 3", but it would be for my 11 year old's stereo I built with an RPi2 and amp hat I had laying around
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> haha, I was raised a poor kid in Appalachia, I was working on engines before I ever touched a computer.
<archetech>
lol rainman maths
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> walked uphill through the snow both ways, you know
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> Spent a couple years playing with x86 assembly language, got bored after I wrote some basic USB drivers in it, (old USB2 stuff), moved on to ARM
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> now I'm just mad and busy with family all the time 😄
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> oh, and the paying job
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> that is important, if boring as all hell
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> @infinity_q what bluetooth profile are those speakers using?
<archetech>
pay the bills make wife happy play with gear I get it
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> found it, APT-X. good
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> right now "rebuild chunks of the 100 year old house you bought" is in there too
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> I forgot to mention I can also electrician/plumber/architect pretty well. doing a perimeter drain in my basement
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> before I can set up my lab again
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> a jackahammer is a hell of aworkout, so is mixing concrete
<archetech>
im having fun finding new source artists
<archetech>
im on a jazz classical bend atm
<archetech>
being a old school rocker its fun discovery thing
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> yeah, my music collection is a little mixed, not a lot of jazz though
<archetech>
got a new amp and speakers so its natural to to test new stuff
<archetech>
isnt electonics fun I have the best computer gear a guy could want but hifi... its a rabbit hole of diversity
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[Discord] <infinity_q> my speakers are kind of in a cubbyhole, so if you turn them up too loud the bass resonates in the cubbyhole, sounds like a pulsejet 🤣
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> hahahaha
<archetech>
lol
<archetech>
yeah ya got learnin to do kid
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[Discord] <infinity_q> well, I don't really have a better place to put them rn
<archetech>
nobody listens to little computer speakers in this realm
<archetech>
but little computer monitors are a cool goal
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[Discord] <infinity_q> I don't either
<archetech>
if I did buy some little pc speakers they be $5-800 pr
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> I had an Inspiron 9100 laptop back in 2004, it had a micro-sized subwoofer in the battery, and had surprising good sound considering
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> not "good", but "acceptable given the circumstances"
<archetech>
tony! see that little audio out jack on that laptop!
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[Discord] <infinity_q> my laptop ain't got no bass response whatsoever
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> yeah, it was wild that these did
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[Discord] <infinity_q> my laptop speakers ain't got no bass response whatsoever
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[Discord] <infinity_q> I only ever use my headphones with my portable devices
<archetech>
audio out is pure digital nuttin wrg with cabling that to a amp/receiver
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> it had an spdif on the computer as well
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[Discord] <Tonymac32> but I used the audio out to go to these klipsch speakers
<archetech>
I play out the pc spdif to amp all day long
<archetech>
these new amps habe DAC's that would blow ur mind for quailty
<archetech>
have
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<archetech>
ESS Wolfsen etc
<Infinity_Q>
E
<archetech>
even have usb input for a phone to source the songs
<archetech>
Donald Fagen Nightfly!
<archetech>
some use SBC's to tie into the web
<archetech>
rpi etc
<Infinity_Q>
indeed
<Infinity_Q>
I do most of my github work on SBCs
<archetech>
github =code youtube = tunes
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[Discord] <infinity_q> Oh YEAH
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[Discord] <infinity_q> listenin' to some tunes rn, in fact
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<Infinity_Q>
Ima say something. cheese. 🧀
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[Discord] <sensei5297> Hi guys I'm new to the forum and new to rk3399 armbian.I'm trying to compile a new image.The image is created but when i flashit on my p1 it does not detect trust,uboot ect.Q
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[Discord] <sensei5297> Is there a command to compile image with uboot
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