09:35 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> If anyone is interested in working to support the Radxa CM5 it looks like they would be willing to provide £free hardware: https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/3#issuecomment-1408095315

11:14 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> only amateurs are happy with free hardware. and those doesn't working to support hardware. Developers needs to pay bills and support families. Free hardware which values is around one hour of work, doesn't bring food on the table.

11:15 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> I take it you don't want one then?

11:16 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> what do you offer to me?

11:17 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> I don't work for Radxa. I offer you nothing.

11:17 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> this is a very strange plead then. I also don't work for radxa, nor for you

11:17 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> I just thought some of you might like a free CM5 that's all

11:18 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> because we have so much of free time to no know what to do?

11:18 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> no offence. just asking

11:18 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> Because you might not know that you could get a CM5 just by asking Radxa

11:19 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i am in this business more then radxa

11:19 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> we have to turn down those things as there are a lot more hardware then resources

11:20 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> Great, I'll take that as a no then. If anyone else wants one then just ask Radxa

11:20 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> and if there is nobody to pay the bills, this is just stupid doing

11:20 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> free hardware has no value

11:21 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> you and hw vendor wants that developers play with this

11:25 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i assume you are a business client. how much do you support our activities? And you have an answer to all your questions

11:33 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> That's an incorrect assumption. I'm a hobbyist who'd like to see better software support for the CM5 as I think it's interesting hardware that can support open-hardware carrier boards.

11:33 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> That's why I choose the welcoming and friendly Armbian community 😆

11:37 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ok, for our perspective is the same. If you don't support us, we can't pay the bills and expand. While industry is throwing out new and new stuff with higher and higher rate. Making hardware - without software support - is dirt cheap.

11:39 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> to make in tl;dr; supporting hardware is hard job, its not near as cool or close to what JeffG is doing https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews

11:39 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> while he earns probably 50x more

11:58 <Armbian-Discord> <s​am_uk> None of that is actually my fault.

12:05 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> earning is not your fault, asking for free support is

12:07 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> not you in particular, bug community / end users

14:54 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> CM5 looks cool, but yeah, unfortunately I don't have the time to take the hardware and return nothing but a complaint that Radxa needs to invest in mainlining the SoC

14:55 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> along with orange, etc

14:59 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> thanks for the heads up in case anyone here wants to take on a pet project though