16:59 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> A311D2 is too expensive and RK3588 is entering x86 space. You can get a Zen 1/2 chip for cheaper.

16:59 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> Same with S928X. The price performance and amount of software you have to upstream in order to use it makes it a tough case.

17:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> N100 is 2x nearly 2x the performance for half the price.

17:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> Unless you need the IP soup that is RK3588, N100 is cleaner.

17:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> Orange Pi can barely sell them at $100.

17:01 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> You are comparing 2 different architectures... some people (like me) actually care about the low level architecture and x86 is lacking vs arm

17:02 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> Yeah, but you're talking hundreds of people vs hundreds of thousands...

17:02 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> You can geek out all you want but at the end of the day, products are not hobbies.

17:03 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> If that was so... we would have no innovation (ie the Raspberry pi)

17:05 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> Without big commercial open source consultancies working for big custoemrs, Armbian would still be vendor SDK. Hobbyists are not a large enough market.

17:06 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> RK3568 and RK3588 without Collabora would still be in the stone ages.

17:07 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> @dsx724 incorrect once again...

17:09 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> Do your homework before you say I'm not correct.

17:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> @dsx724 considering I spent 25 years in that industry.... I think I did plenty of homework...and I agree the RK3588 had "some" improvement it was not in the stone age however the 3568 was completely fine... I've had Odroid 3568's running on it for a year or two great now

17:14 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> And when did "I" ever say anything about "Armbian"? "You" did...

17:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> I commented om architectures

17:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> I commented om architectures so keep the topics about what was being discussed.

17:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> I commented on architectures so keep the topics about what was being discussed.

17:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dsx724> spend some time reading the rockchip mailing list

17:28 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <viraniac> Guys, calm down. There is no need to argue. Also lets not discuss non-amlogic things in amlogic channel

17:28 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> I suggest off-topic since neither Armbian nor AML related