<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> this is the thread he claimed he got Armbian running on V3s. My problem is I dont know where to start
<Speedsaver>
Title: Very Small Platforms - Rockchip 3308 and Allwinner V3s - Off-topic - armbian forum (at forum.armbian.com)
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> can I level with you?
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> we have a project with a core use-case that will run on Buildroot, this part is easy. We did Proof of Concept on RPi0, and prototyped on OPi0 and a modified version of the short lived Blueberry Pi (V3s), so we know it works. We have designed our own board based on the Lichee Zero
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> We are very keen to rebuild community support for the Lichee Zero, in preparation for acceptance for our board
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> And I love Armbian, I use it every day. It's the ideal OS for alternative use cases
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> how much have you donated last year?
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> because i lost 16 hours every day because of it
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> because of what?
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> because of maintaining it and answering questions
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> do you think it works so well just like that?
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I cant remember exactly how much, but I donated to your server fundraiser
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> IgorPec you sound stressed!
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> ok let me ask you a question,
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> how much have you donated last year.................what level of donation would get your attention?
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> my problem is I dont know anybody with the skills to introduce a new SoC to the Armbian portfolio. But I do however know it works (well, if you believe Chwe). And I'm very keen to add it to the list
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> So lets talk
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> i have asked you for last year, since this determine this year. i am full for months ahead.
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I dont quite follow what you mean
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> you can invest today, so we will talk/ work in 6-12m
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> You need a low power offering. The world doesn't need any more quad core short lived projects
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> Is there someone else you can recommend with availability?
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> what i don't have is time to fracture more
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> if you find one, send it to me
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> lol
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> this is how things works now
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> understood
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> world is flushed with cheap money, everyone is seeking for this kind of skills
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> do you regret taking this on? Maybe you feel like Baron Frankenstein, who created a monster?
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> not really. this has little to do with this monster
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> i just set rules to myself, that i will work with people that cosponsor the project
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> i don't need this project in such size
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I understand
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> basically a partnership since job i already have
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I appreciate your honesty
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> it will be difficult to attract a partner when it doesnt generate revenue
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> but it seems strange you are on your own
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> well, there are people / businesses that generate cash out of this.
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> and therea are partners
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> you have 5 staff in your channel, not including you
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> dont they help?
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> they do.
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> the business side of our project uses Buildroot, Armbian is just for alternative use cases
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> but i am sympathetic to your situation
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> i am fine, until people start asking technical questions on my expense
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> im not a developer, I just need one. I'm happy to pay, but 6-12 months is too long
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I hope you dont think I asked a technical question
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> you have generic linux folks on freelancer for 500 USD per hour
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I prefer Fiverr, people are more sensible there
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> i usually close all comm very fast since working for somone else interest ideas are showing up almost every day and talking about costs me literally thausands of dollars, while some peole even expect it will be free - "support is paid, right?" was asked by someone few days ago.
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I would pay you to support this device. Its the TIMESCALE that's the problem
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> Besides, generic Linux folks would go "umm.....what's Armbian?...never heard of it". I just dont wanna have that conversation, at all, ever
<peterm6881>
<peterm6881> I want someone who knows what they're doing
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> you will throw a bag of cash to cover your share in software you already use - minimal respect - "I only do business with people that sponsor project", to cover expenses of this talking and last year (both was my personal time - i don't offer services you might need) and then I will talk with people if this can be done. You can only pay for the research phase. Expect slim chanches since all people
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> are deep into the project. Including me
<peterm6881>
enjoy
<peterm6881>
sadly, I have no clue what the fuck he's going on about
<peterm6881>
i realised that was going nowhere so I've left it before I start sounding rude
<Xogium>
well… that's too bad I suppose
<peterm6881>
But he's understandably pissed he's wasting 16 hours a day that he feels he should be getting 500 USD an hour for
<peterm6881>
u cant really square that circle
<Xogium>
mmh
<Xogium>
apparently even icenowy gave up on the v3s lol
<Xogium>
I really don't get these chinese people
<Xogium>
toss a board on the market, let it sink
<Xogium>
and no distro feel like getting it because its awefull
<peterm6881>
yeah those motherfuckers are crazy, its like they never heard of marketing
<Xogium>
it'll work for our use case, but for all we know not all of the hardware work and armbian doesn't care enough
<Xogium>
like the setup for camera
<peterm6881>
Igor is stressed out. I feel awful about that
<peterm6881>
most of the supported SoC's are quad core, fucking market is saturated. They dont have a low power, entry level offering
<peterm6881>
and yet V3s is Sochips top selling SoC
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> try supporting unfinished linux, which actually is(was) for SBC, to a bunch of amateurs that have no feeling about anyhting
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> this is the extreme where you can easily get. i am sure you didn't have near to such experience
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> and you are not paid
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> and do that to approximately 100 x too big crowd
<peterm6881>
<IgorPec> questions never stop. its 24/7
<Xogium>
mmh well, lets forget about common distro and focus on speedsaver, I say