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<peterm6881> hey Xogium
<Xogium> hey
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<peterm6881> i was checking to see if any of those post messages appear in Armbian, they dont
<peterm6881> are you in the Buildroot channel?
<Xogium> yes
<peterm6881> lol whats the latest alias
<Xogium> what do you mean
<peterm6881> i dont see you listed
<Xogium> buildroot moved to oftc irc network
<peterm6881> wtf
<peterm6881> i added the channel here, who are the people on Libera then?
<peterm6881> sure enough, 0 ops
<peterm6881> such bs
<peterm6881> what did BR not like about Libera?
<peterm6881> sigh, registration hell again
<Xogium> not sure what they didn't like, tbh
<Xogium> someone made a channel on libera, but they never migrated to it in the end
<peterm6881> can you help me get registered , ive added OFTC
<peterm6881> i cant remember how you register
<Xogium> it is different for each network
<Xogium> have to message nickserv, I think
<peterm6881> its fine i got ity
<peterm6881> it
<peterm6881> i see you there, how come no ops?
<Xogium> ops can be ops without necessarily advertising it
<Xogium> they can activate op mode if they need to, not all the time
<Xogium> like this
<peterm6881> awesome
<Xogium> exception to it is chanserv bot which keeps the channel alive if everybody quits
<peterm6881> how come ours has ChanServ bot and buildroots dorsnt, just curious
<Xogium> I think chanserv is for freenode/libera, oftc might do things differently
<peterm6881> got it
<Xogium> freenode totally sank though
<Xogium> andrew lee fucked it up real bad
<peterm6881> lol bad karma. no kudos
<peterm6881> can you check if there are any upstream changes we could apply?
<peterm6881> meh i guess that would come with newer LTS right?
<peterm6881> did you read Tom's reply?
<Xogium> yes
<peterm6881> is it worth chasing sunxi?
<Xogium> we don't use their kernel, so no
<peterm6881> or, not
<peterm6881> its Allwinners kernel?
<Xogium> changes we can apply, well I already told you that we update the kernel version independently of the lts of br, we don't use their latest kernel version they decide to stick with
<peterm6881> what does Tom mean by vendor supplied kernel
<Xogium> it is mainline kernel
<Xogium> he mean like the kernel from allwinner yes
<Xogium> we don't use that
<Xogium> the kernel from sunxi is old and unmaintained, it's like a 3.x kernel
<Xogium> well I say sunxi but its really allwinner as vendor
<Xogium> sunxi is just the family of product it's made for
<peterm6881> thats fine. Talk to me about upstream maintainers
<peterm6881> who are these kernel gods of which you and Tom speak
<Xogium> well… whoever maintains the support for orange pi zero, I suppose… No idea who that would be
<peterm6881> and where do they reside if not mighty Olympus itself
<peterm6881> Hmm, how do we find out?
<Xogium> not sure who we would need to contact exactly, someone from a particular subsystem or…
<Xogium> the kernel tree has a get-maintainer script that can tell you who maintains a particular piece of code
<peterm6881> ohhh
<peterm6881> we're on the case
<peterm6881> can you check it
<Xogium> not 10000% sure but I'd say
<Xogium> Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> (maintainer:ARM/Allwinner sunXi SoC support)
<Xogium> Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org> (maintainer:ARM/Allwinner sunXi SoC support)
<Xogium> linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev (open list:ARM/Allwinner sunXi SoC support)
<Xogium> the last one is a mailing list
<peterm6881> brilliant
<peterm6881> can you note that down somewhere?
<Xogium> already noted in my logs ;)
<peterm6881> how secure are they ;)
<peterm6881> so, how should we handle this
<Xogium> secure as in ?
<peterm6881> im teasing, as long as you can pull it up in 6 months lol
<peterm6881> so, whos gonna reach out to these guys?
<peterm6881> given I wont understand the answer in a million years......
<Xogium> then it's pretty much a retorical question isn't it
<peterm6881> great job getting that information
<peterm6881> yes, yes it is
<peterm6881> but only if you're happy
<peterm6881> ;)
<peterm6881> It could still be relevant even if we move to another device. since its still Allwinner
<peterm6881> relevant as in relevant to whatever new persistent warnings we getin post
<peterm6881> get in
<Xogium> yeah
<peterm6881> so worth opening a dialogue with these people, agreed?
<peterm6881> thats fascinating, I'velearned something important today
<peterm6881> how not to type
<Xogium> oh ?
<peterm6881> I've learned *
<peterm6881> the process to escalate low level kernel issues
<peterm6881> with luck, we can clean this up. Definitely worth exploring
<peterm6881> get-maintainer, nice work
<peterm6881> time for dinner
<peterm6881> have you had yours?
<Xogium> not yet
<peterm6881> heck Xogium, look after yourself
<peterm6881> I need you
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