<mattip>
fijal: sorry, was not around. I think all the info is in the issue
<mattip>
one "solution" is to drop support for macos<10.15 in the portable builds on downloads.python.org/pypy/
<LarstiQ>
10.14 is from 2018 it seems, pre-pandemic but not _that_ old?
<mattip>
people with earlier versions can use conda
<mattip>
which provides its own libffi
<mattip>
is there hardware that supports 10.14 but not 10.15?
<LarstiQ>
Instead of adding four relations for each side of the outer square we can add them altogether since the +1, +1, -1, -1 factors will cancel out.
<LarstiQ>
gah
<LarstiQ>
pasted the wrong thing
<LarstiQ>
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-250002395 says "All who support Mojave support macOS Catalina Except: Mac Pro introduced mid-2010 or mid-2012 models with a recommended Metal-capable graphics card.
<LarstiQ>
"
<LarstiQ>
mattip: so if that's true, the only not supported hardware would be a decade old?
<mattip>
right, so I am not sure how hard we should try to support that version of macOS
<cfbolz>
Happy 2023 everyone!
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<fijal>
mattip: what am I doing?
<mattip>
cfbolz: happy new year.
<mattip>
fijal: is there a way to make pypy work with an older libffi?