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<beach> I must be doing something wrong but I don't see it. In SBCL I did (defpackage #:pa) (defpackage #:pb) (defpackage #:pc (:local-nicknames (#:a #:pa))) and then (add-package-local-nickname '#:a '#:pb '#:pc) and I expected an error, but the last call had no effect.
<beach> SBCL 2.1.3 in case that matters.
<beach> I expected an error because of what I read in the SBCL manual.
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<wacki> sbcl-2.4.3 throws an error.
<beach> I see. Thanks.
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<kanuba> Erm, signals an error condition.
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<Pixel_Outlaw> Some leisure stuff today. Needs a heavy refactor. In the "get it working then refactor" part. :) https://imgur.com/JyjQh6W
<ixelp> Screenshot - Imgur
<holycow> that looks cool.
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<holycow> what are you building?
<Pixel_Outlaw> This is a small implementation of the grammar in "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants"
<Pixel_Outlaw> I'm not doing all of it, I don't feel like doing the 3D stuff nor the stuff that emulates new budding along bark given energy constraints.
<holycow> oh neat
<holycow> have you considered kons-9 as a way to do the 3d stuff? not apropos of anything just curious
<Pixel_Outlaw> That would be an excellent way to do it.
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<holycow> neat!
<bike> oh, it's actually botany. i was worried for a minute there
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<bike> lindenmayer systems, very good
<Pixel_Outlaw> This guy kind of goes nuts with more whistles and bells towards the end.
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<nij-> After making *var* globally special with (defvar *var*), is there any way to make it non-special? (I know it's dangerous. Just curious.)
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<bike> nope.
<nij-> :-O
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<nij-> I can't find a place in the spec that bans this. That means a conforming implementation could expose this?
<reb> nij-: Are you asking about making a variable non-special?
<bike> nij-: sure, there's no reason it couldn't.
<_death> seems impractical (and useless) to me
<reb> After (defvar *x*), *x* is special. Common Lisp does not have global lexicals, so what would making *x* non-special mean?
<bike> you could make it constant, or global on sbcl. or just make it non special so that further bindings are lexical again.
<nij-> reb Makes *x* no longer seen as a special variable.
<_death> e.g., you'll likely have code that's already compiled with special variable access.. now you need to patch that?
<nij-> It may be unbound.
<nij-> _death Yes! Something like that.
<nij-> bike .. do you mean it's possible to unspecialized it on sbcl?
<_death> what you can do if you mistakenly mark some symbol as a special variable is, you can unintern it and recompile code that referenced that symbol as needed
<nij-> Oh! Lemme try!
<nij-> _death ! Indeed! (worked on sbcl)
<nij-> But technically speaking.. if I unintern and intern.. is that symbol the same symbol?
<_death> no
<bike> no, it's a different symbol