Tartarus changed the topic of #u-boot to: SOURCE MOVED TO https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot.git / U-Boot v2022.04, v2022.07-rc5 are OUT / Merge Window is CLOSED, -next is OPEN / Release v2022.07 is scheduled for 4 July 2022 / http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot / Channel archives at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/u-boot
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<van> cambrian_invader: So you use jlink with openocd or something like that?
<van> I mean I was looking at olimex arm jtag hw but none of them say that they support cortex-a series
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<hanetzer> hushmoney: it depends on the particular device, but iirc the rk3399 devices in u-boot do that.
<hanetzer> van: black magic probe is kinda dope.
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<van> hanetzer: yeah, it is a shame that it doesn't support cortex-a53/72 :|
<hanetzer> van: ah, doesn't it now? well, its open source firmware :P
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<any1> Tartarus: Using the device tree from armbian worked
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<van> hanetzer: yup.
<van> I think it is sold out though.
<hanetzer> van: ah. well you can turn a blackpill into a black magic probe, y'kno :)
<Tartarus> any1: Ah, so that probably means some kernel patch to change the dts files, my first guess anyhow
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<any1> Yeah, they have some patches for that. I've yet to look into them more closely
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<hushmoney> hanetzer: thanks. why does it depend on the device? once the firmware has loaded and started u-boot isn't it entirely up to u-boot at that point?
<hanetzer> hushmoney: I don't think every one of them has it implemented :)
<hanetzer> so, while in theory I think any u-boot device can do it, not all of them have the plumbing hooked up.
<hushmoney> by "every one of them" you mean every one of what? every u-boot implementation?
<hanetzer> every device supported by uboot.
<hushmoney> so what isn't clear to me is - are you describing a u-boot code deficiency, or a device firmware deficiency?
<hanetzer> I mean, depending on how you look at it those could be the same thing :)
<hanetzer> but for example. the rk3288 and rk3399. arm and arm64 respectively. the former, last I looked, does not bundle u-boot into a FIT image. the latter does (along with ATF iirc)
<hushmoney> how can i tell if my device supports it?
<hushmoney> my device has firmware that executes before u-boot and is responsible for finding and loading the bootloader, that's why i'm confused
<hanetzer> what kind of device?
<hushmoney> it's a xilinx versal
<hanetzer> consult the datasheets, I guess. note: the rk3399 I mentioned first executes the spl (after bootrom), which loads the u-boot+atf fit image, so I don't think FIT loading is an inherit characteristic of the SoC
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<hushmoney> ok, thanks for your patience. this is all new to me
<hanetzer> hushmoney: Its not new to me, but I'm not quite adept at it yet, so all this info may be subtly wrong. however, I find the best way to get the write answer is to assert the wrong answer and wait for the corrections, so I think in this case I'm at least passibly correct :)
<hanetzer> *right answer. wtf I can english I swear.
<hushmoney> yes i am also familiar with this tactic :)
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<van> hanetzer: oh I see
<van> I didn't know about that though
<hanetzer> van: I'm full of odd bits and bobs :L
<van> lol
<van> hanetzer: I am really new to hardware debugging
<hanetzer> its fun. what's your use case?
<van> hanetzer: I am trying to learn how the mmu works in detail.
<van> And I want to be able to inspect the special registers in a53/72 cores
<van> so all though I have the code and it works.. I want to know how. :)
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