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<TMM_> I MADE THE MOST OBVIOUS GUESS
<TMM_> :)
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<TimMc> Welcome. :-)
<TMM_> :)
<TMM_> That was a very good joke
<TMM_> I mean, the topic, not me
<kentonv> heh, they actually censored the "most obvious guess" topic. Either that or I was just dumb and forgot topic lock was on.
<TMM_> I wouldn't be surprised
<TMM_> What a mess
<TimMc> I didn't see that topic change come through.
<kentonv> didn't you? You commented on it...
<TimMc> Oh! I see now.
<TimMc> I mostly noticed the revert by the "network".
<TimMc> I'm glad to see that at least the 16:53 topic change was left unmolested.
<TMM_> This new owner is such an baby. Crying about 'cancel culture' because they literally did a hostile takeover of a network
<TMM_> And are now doing stuff that no network oper should EVER do
<TMM_> Not if they want to, you know, have users
<kentonv> the guy is an out-of-touch rich kid. Literally believes himself to be royalty (of Korea, even though he was born and raised in the US).
<kentonv> I think he believes what he's doing is justified but he's just a complete idiot
<kentonv> it sounds like freenode management was also rather naive in creating the situation where any of this was possible
<TMM_> Yeah, for Godot we have the money and trademarks and stuff with the SFC
<Corbin> It sounds like, at some point in the past, somebody associated with Freenode took some of his money. This is the capitalist version of wielding a monkey's paw.
<TMM_> We're working on some supporting companies but they will all license the required marks and shit from SFC
<TMM_> So if anyone ever goes rouge they can't take the project or any infra
<TMM_> Freenode didn't do that, the transferred their assets into a corporation
<TMM_> Instead of licensing it out from a foundation
<TMM_> So yeah, the corporation could be sold...
<TMM_> Idiots
<kentonv> well it sounds like the former lead operator of freenode _personally_ made a deal to sell the domain to this guy, for _personal_ benefit. Which really ought not to have been possible.
<TMM_> rogue I mean not rouge. if one of us goes rouge that's not a problem :P
<TMM_> kentonv: from what I understand this was only possible because they made an LLC?
<TimMc> yeah rouge is fine
<kentonv> TMM, right, but I guess this implies that christel personally owned the LLC, in order to be able to sell it.
<TMM_> I wonder how much they got for it
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<kentonv> seemingly no one except Lee and christel know, but given that when she proposed the idea she did not hide the fact that she was sort of desperate... I'm going to guess she got herself lowballed.
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<isd> Maybe I should dig up the IRC bouncers I tried to port/write. I don't actually use matrix for anything but IRC anymore...
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<ocdtrekkie> isd: I would probably use it. Only reason I didn't try it back in the day was because I was on Oasis.
<isd> I'll put it on my endless list of projects. *sigh*
<ocdtrekkie> isd: In theory it sounds like the Libera bridge is about ready though.
<ocdtrekkie> It says in testing.
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