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<agg> testing...
<Darius> pong
<re_irc> <@l​uojia65:m​atrix.org> Wrote a library for XuanTie processor cores: https://github.com/luojia65/xuantie
<re_irc> <@l​uojia65:m​atrix.org> Similiar to cortex-m, aarch64, or other processor support rust crates
<re_irc> <@l​uojia65:m​atrix.org> (tried to convince t-head semiconductor to maintain with us but they refused :x
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<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> ok, I have set up a temporary/testing IRC bridge until everything else can be sorted out; at least this will resume the public logs and allow IRC users to join in discussions
<agg> messages from IRC users (such as this one) appear from ghost matrix users, but messages from matrix users are all piped through the re_irc user on the IRC side, with the sender's username first
<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> also, this bridge has no special access or permissions to either IRC or matrix, and so cannot kick users or otherwise cause trouble (🤞)
<cr1901> They really botched the bridges, didn't they? ##rust-retro has the bridge enabled, but last I checked, msgs from IRC side don't get to Matrix side
<agg> that sounds bad
<cr1901> thejpster is looking into it. I have faith in him
<agg> Our problems are a mix of too many users and now not being able to register this channel and so on, but once the bridge is actually set up it should work..
<agg> This new bridge is much simpler in some ways
<agg> But it can't impersonate matrix users on the irc side which is a bit worse for irc users
<agg> My home internet just cut out too, lol
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<re_irc> <@t​hejpster:m​atrix.org> Wait ... agg == adamgreig ??!
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<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> 🌎️ 👨‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀 always has been.
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> adamgreig: do you want me to do an announcement on twitter? Or do we want to let it ramp up a bit more naturally first to test load?
<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> I guess leave it for now, I want to see how stable it is and how well it works, if this ends up being s better option long term maybe we can put it behind a rust-embedded URL too etc
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<re_irc> <@f​irefrommoonlight:m​atrix.org> This book on designing electronics (just came out) is outstanding: http://designingelectronics.com/
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<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> I seem to remember seeing a list of job posting of full time rust embedded jobs somewhere? Can someone help me find it, if such thing? Newsletter somewhere?
<re_irc> <@b​radleyharden:m​atrix.org> Reddit usually has a weekly thread for job postings. Not limited to embedded though
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> Perhaps i'm mixing it up with the rust job postings in the this-week-in-rust newsletters
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> are you job seeking?
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> Nope, i am offering ;)
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> aw, me too :)
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> Where in the world?
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> remote, preferably EU timezone
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> is it OK to post jobs here?
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> That doesn't sound like something that should be too hard to find?
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> yeah, it's just now that we're opening the first firmware devposition
<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> I don't remember seeing anything for rust embedded jobs
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> we should make one
<re_irc> <@r​yan-summers:m​atrix.org> Not a bad idea tbh
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> makes great content for newsletters too ;)
<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> no objection to non-spammy advertising in here but yea, it would probably get lost in the noise pretty quick
<re_irc> <@t​herealprof:m​atrix.org> Could also post on TWIR.
<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> I believe jamesmunns's policy for the twitter acct includes retweeting such things (correct me if I'm wrong)
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> Yeah! Pretty much tweet about it and tag rustembedded
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> best if you have a public job posting that mentions rust linked in the tweet
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<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> I'll generally retweet anything I'm tagged in, just don't tag it like every 3 days with the same job posting :D
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> (also periodic reminder, I'm happy to add anyone on the resources team to the tweetdeck, I'm just always on twitter anyway)
<re_irc> <@r​yan-summers:m​atrix.org> Yeah, I've been continually reading articles that big companies like google, microsoft, apple, and amazone are starting to pull in more and more Rust. Definitely curious to see how things move in the coming years
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> Will remember that. I don't have formal job posting yet, as i just got the go for the hire, but i guess writing one will be on my agenda for monday morning ;)
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> @ryan-summers:matrix.org: One or more of those companies is doing embedded rust right now, and generally hiring for it.
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> Like not huge company wide policy, but teams in the xx count +
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> 🚀
<re_irc> <@r​yan-summers:m​atrix.org> I remember a friend of mine at SpaceX's firmware team was ranting about how great Rust would be one day back in 2015
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<re_irc> <@r​yan-summers:m​atrix.org> The time is now, old man!
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> not rust embedded yet though?
<re_irc> <@r​yan-summers:m​atrix.org> I would actually argue there's a lot more embedded rust than you're seeing. I think companies are hesitant because there's not quite as much in terms of knowledgeable devs right now. They can get a lot more college grads that know C
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> @dirbaio:matrix.org: If you mean hiring for it, yes, they are actively hiring for those roles atm
<re_irc> <@r​yan-summers:m​atrix.org> It's always hard to see underneath the curtain for big companies
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<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> If we have a regular place to post jobs, I will forward them there
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> > They can get a lot more college grads that know C
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> and that ship ultra hard to debug memory corruptions all over the place :P
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> @jamesmunns:matrix.org: I tell this to big corporates too, as semi-official policy.
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> "please post a job description, have anyone (dev, manager, company) tweet about it"
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> I also post them to the newsletters that have job sections
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> But yeah, if someone makes an email somewhere, or a section in the newsletter they can PR, I can write up a "this is how to find a r-e dev to hire" guide.
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> Wauw, thats some impressive service you provide there 👍️
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> hell, I'll retweet it from the ferrous account too
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> more jobs more work
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> Order a training from us when you need to train the other 6 folks on your team about Rust :)
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> Or have us come work on some open source components you need for your product. We love doing that stuff.
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> We do proprietary stuff too :D
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> But yeah, enough Ferrous plugging, but I'm happy to signal boost anywhere I can for anyone. People just gotta put it out there.
<re_irc> <@j​amesmunns:m​atrix.org> I retweet folks that are looking for jobs too.
<re_irc> <@m​athias_koch:m​atrix.org> I will remember that at work, when we run into issues we cannot wrap our head around ourselves, or need to bring new people up to speed on rust fast
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<re_irc> <@l​achlansneff:m​atrix.org> Hi everyone! I have quite a bit of experience with Rust, especially with low-level, operating system things (I wrote that wasm + rust OS a few years ago: [nebulet](https://github.com/nebulet/nebulet)). I'm doing embedded dev (mostly C) at [Golioth](https://golioth.io/) this summer and have gotten really...
<re_irc> ... interested in embedded Rust. We can see that Rust is becoming more and more popular in the embedded world and would love to port our SDK to rust embedded platforms over time.
<re_irc> <@l​achlansneff:m​atrix.org> I'd also love to contribute to embedded rust personally, so if anyone has suggestions as for where help is needed, please let me know.
<re_irc> <@a​damgreig:m​atrix.org> cool, welcome!
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<re_irc> <@f​irefrommoonlight:m​atrix.org> Lachlan Sneff: We could all benefit from more libraries, PRs, and guides on DMA use with SPI, I2C, and USART
<re_irc> <@j​acobrosenthal:m​atrix.org> @lachlansneff:matrix.org: Lotta async experimentation in #embassy-rs:matrix.org https://github.com/embassy-rs/embassy
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> and async is the best for networking stuff *wink wink*
<re_irc> <@j​amwaffles:m​atrix.org> Feel free to hop on over to #rust-embedded-graphics:matrix.org and make some cool demos with [embedded-graphics](https://crates.io/crates/embedded-graphics) too!
<re_irc> <@l​achlansneff:m​atrix.org> @dirbaio:matrix.org: Speaking of, is there any sort of networking abstraction for embedded rust?
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> embedded-nal (not async though)
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> there's also embassy-net (somewhat WIP though), that uses smoltcp (full rust tcp/ip stack)
<re_irc> <@l​achlansneff:m​atrix.org> Is there a list of boards/frameworks/etc that implement the backends for embedded-nal?
<re_irc> <@d​irbaio:m​atrix.org> @lachlansneff:matrix.org: https://crates.io/crates/embedded-nal/reverse_dependencies